Title: spine protectors Post by: Dockstrada on July 12, 2008, 04:01:06 PM Hi All, I have been thinking about buying a spine protector for a while now but sorta dont know enough about them.
Have see some of you guys have them tucked under you leathers when we ride and just and would like some feed back. With the little research I have done I have found 2 types straps and no straps. So are they uncomfortable, do they interfere with your riding in any way what type do you have and why did you go for that particular make and model [thumbsup] Title: Re: spine protectors Post by: dragonworld. on July 12, 2008, 04:46:16 PM I used to use a Dianese strap around type when I was racing and it did its job a couple of times, heh!! [roll]
Some types that just tuck into your leathers can be a pain as they can move around out of position. ??? The vest type are some of the best types I've seen, maybe overdone for road riding?? But you can NEVER be too safe, for the just incases that might happen!! [moto] [thumbsup] Title: Re: spine protectors Post by: midori20x on July 12, 2008, 05:59:47 PM I wear the Ducati T2. On every ride including commuting to work.
It is comfortable. It has a clip at the top to connect to a suitable jacket. My jacket doesn't accommodate this but I can say it really doesn't move much. Reason for this one - it was the Ducati item with the most coverage and my jacket didn't have a pouch for the small protector. Although, why would you want a half sized one? I did consider the T Pro Armour. Title: Re: spine protectors Post by: Palooka on July 12, 2008, 06:59:10 PM I've used a Dainese Wave II for about 3 years now. I consider it an essential piece of riding kit and wear it pretty much all the time. It's totally comfortable when wearing and fits under the jacket and leathers.
I wouldn't consider wearing anything that is level 1 compliance and only look at level 2. Have a serious look at the Forcefield range of protectors. They do everything from full upper body armour to smaller portable protectors (that can roll up and be put in a small bag). Here's a link to the Forcefield website and some reviews: http://www.forcefieldbodyarmour.co.uk/reviews.asp Cheers Palooka Title: Re: spine protectors Post by: Spider on July 12, 2008, 07:04:28 PM My Kushitani has a built in pocket, and I run the T pro forcefield CE Lvl 2 (pro) back protector in it.
doesn't move around.... after a few minutes it warms up (more on this) and becomes more flexible and then easily molds to the body, very comfortable. but.... this thing is going to be hell in summer, it definitely keeps me warmer in winter, it effects body temperature - no doubt (similar effect to riding with a backpack IMO). More next step is to replace the built in shoulder armor with BMW CE 2 stuff....would like to try that out as well....another name for you to research. seen the new Dianese with the built in neck protector? that looks good! now that CE 2 is being achieved by a few brands I think it's worth spending the extra time and money and hunting it down. Title: Re: spine protectors Post by: monstermick58 on July 12, 2008, 09:42:00 PM Gosh!!
I've been thinking about back protectors too! I saw this really nice one at the bike show two years back and I cannot remember its name although I think it was british, and then I thought about the replacable elbow and shoulder protectors, I never seen anyone advertise replacement or up graded pieces. So that was a good question dock Mmick Title: Re: spine protectors Post by: dragonworld. on July 12, 2008, 09:43:11 PM Heh!! Its alright for all you skinny bastards being able to fit extra stuff under your riding gear. [roll]
There is just, and I do mean just enough room for me at the moment!! ??? [beer] [popcorn] [drink] [bacon] [thumbsup] Title: Re: spine protectors Post by: monstermick58 on July 12, 2008, 10:28:18 PM There is just, and I do mean just enough room for me at the moment!! ??? [beer] [popcorn] [drink] [bacon] [thumbsup] Do try the Light diet [thumbsup] Mmick Title: Re: spine protectors Post by: dragonworld. on July 12, 2008, 11:57:01 PM Izzat light [beer]??? ;D (Catspiss)
Or should I drink more???? [wine] And stay off the Guiness???? [drink] :( Title: Re: spine protectors Post by: Dockstrada on July 13, 2008, 01:14:06 AM I used to use a Dianese strap around type when I was racing and it did its job a couple of times, heh!! [roll] Some types that just tuck into your leathers can be a pain as they can move around out of position. ??? The vest type are some of the best types I've seen, maybe overdone for road riding?? But you can NEVER be too safe, for the just incases that might happen!! [moto] [thumbsup] Just spoke to a mate about the vest type and he agrees they are the best type, it would be interesting to get some feedback from someone that has actually done some miles in one ??? Title: Re: spine protectors Post by: Palooka on July 13, 2008, 03:11:36 AM Here's RIDE magazine's test results on some of the top protectors.
http://www.forcefieldbodyarmour.co.uk/reviews/Ride_June_2008_Best_Buy_Back_Protector.pdf Cheers Palooka Title: Re: spine protectors Post by: Spider on July 13, 2008, 03:30:28 AM when you open up that PDF and look at the T pro - mine is the actually armor without the holding straps...
I was disappointed with the BMW one though....maybe I stick with what I've got and get T Pro shoulder armor instead. what did you think of that test Dock? Title: Re: spine protectors Post by: mattyvas on July 13, 2008, 05:26:55 AM When I got my leather kit I also bought a Daniese slip in item, can't remember the model.
But it has been in place since I've had the leathers, so I don't know any different. It has never moved around on me fits really tightly in the pocket. Only gets uncomfortable when I wear a backpack but that is not very often. I'm not sure if I'd like extra straps and cords in under my leathers, unless it gave me protection for my chest also. Title: Re: spine protectors Post by: Tool on July 14, 2008, 12:09:52 AM https://images.furniture123.co.uk/F123images/Catalogue/vlrg/BUO001/Eagle%20Tara%20Armchair.jpg
Title: Re: spine protectors Post by: Dockstrada on July 14, 2008, 12:22:05 AM So went out fora sniffed around today and there ain’t much out there. So I settled for a Dainese, seems to be what everyone has been buying, so I followed suit the guy didn’t seem to know much but I’m pretty happy with the end result .
$199.00 Model: Bap 2000/8 ( has something to do with the nunber of plates fitted) (http://www.dainese.com/img/bap-2000_rt.jpg) Title: Re: spine protectors Post by: Jukie on July 14, 2008, 12:24:12 AM i actually would rather the guy
(http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_3_8.gif) Title: Re: spine protectors Post by: Spider on July 14, 2008, 12:34:31 AM yeah, I thought that was Vince and thought "damn, he has the looks AND the Desmosedici!"
Looking good Dock! Title: Re: spine protectors Post by: Jukie on July 14, 2008, 12:36:40 AM Hey Spider,
we do have soming in common and it is good Title: Re: spine protectors Post by: Dockstrada on July 14, 2008, 12:41:44 AM yeah, I thought that was Vince and thought "damn, he has the looks AND the Desmosedici!" Looking good Dock! Yeh it also fits nice and snug under the leathers, Hey Shhhhhh don’t say the D word to loud it makes Tool uncomfortable he’s just starting to open up ;) Title: Re: spine protectors Post by: Tool on July 14, 2008, 01:22:05 AM "too loud" - need to read each post carefully for it to be of any benefit. Tooool
Title: Re: spine protectors Post by: Dockstrada on July 14, 2008, 01:43:51 AM "too loud" - need to read each post carefully for it to be of any benefit. Tooool Tool we know you can spell, Look who is being repetitive .Oh look at me I can spell and im good at grammar 2, Oh how i love me . Title: Re: spine protectors Post by: q monster on July 28, 2008, 07:27:25 AM just got the dainese wave V2 neck - nice fit, very comfortable, and you can really notice the neck support - not intrusive but definately better support to prevent hyper-extension backwards of the neck. as a plus you also look like you have a f...n hot physique!
best part is im hoping to wear it and a T in summer - last summer nearly died with my jacket on [alpinestar non-leather]. Title: Re: spine protectors Post by: Spider on July 28, 2008, 02:57:50 PM best part is im hoping to wear it and a T in summer - last summer nearly died with my jacket on [alpinestar non-leather]. sorry? can you expand on this? you plan on wearing a back protector and a t-shirt? Title: Re: spine protectors Post by: KO801 on July 28, 2008, 07:15:29 PM Is this what you bought q?
http://www.kneedraggers.com/details/Dainese_Jacket_WaveV_2_Neck--614056.html (http://www.kneedraggers.com/details/Dainese_Jacket_WaveV_2_Neck--614056.html) Title: Re: spine protectors Post by: kursed on July 28, 2008, 08:39:06 PM sorry? can you expand on this? you plan on wearing a back protector and a t-shirt? [popcorn] *sits and watches* Title: Re: spine protectors Post by: q monster on July 29, 2008, 07:04:32 AM KO801 yep thats the protector - i'm going to wear it with a long sleeve T ! and my ducati jeans
;D Title: Re: spine protectors Post by: monstermick58 on July 29, 2008, 11:01:08 PM KO801 yep thats the protector - i'm going to wear it with a long sleeve T ! and my ducati jeans ;D Looks the business, so where did you get it? (I presume that you tried it on somewhere) and what did it cost, and is there a beer belly option?? Mmick Title: Re: spine protectors Post by: loony888 on July 29, 2008, 11:26:36 PM my dainese jacket has a back protector pop clipped to an inside pocket and i don't give it a second thought, wouldn't ride without it though, i don't care how hot it gets, 3 months of dressing changes daily for friction burns ain't nice. been there done that!
paul. Title: Re: spine protectors Post by: brimo on July 29, 2008, 11:42:38 PM KO801 yep thats the protector - i'm going to wear it with a long sleeve T ! and my ducati jeans ;D so if you come off at least your spine will still have the skin on. dunno if you've ever seen severe road rash but it ain't pretty. Title: Re: spine protectors Post by: goldFiSh on July 30, 2008, 05:00:18 AM last summer nearly died with my jacket on [alpinestar non-leather]. FWIW, I find my leather jacket much cooler that my textile in the summer. In the same breath, I've been wearing the textile to and from work for the last week... brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrh ;D Title: Re: spine protectors Post by: q monster on July 30, 2008, 06:15:48 AM monstermick got it in stockholm 2 weeks ago - they had the full range there so could try it on - you have to as it must fit properly. cost approx A$350.
about the gravel rash - that a bit hard to get when all the contact points are protected - if you look at the stress response of fibre in a textile jacket compared to the mesh of the dainese protector, its more likely in fact that the textile jacket will tear and the underlying skin will become abraded. so you can't have everything! finally, im a neurosurgeon so not only have i seen gravel rash and more immediately following the trauma than most, i've also treated the spinal injury and i can tell you, the gravel rash just doesn't rate. thats why i think the neck part is a big deal. Title: Re: spine protectors Post by: brimo on July 30, 2008, 03:46:42 PM ....about the gravel rash - that a bit hard to get when all the contact points are protected - ........ apologies qmonster, my mistake, read the post as a back protector only, not what you had bought. Title: Re: spine protectors Post by: q monster on July 30, 2008, 05:35:15 PM no worries brimo
[beer] Title: Re: spine protectors Post by: loony888 on July 31, 2008, 12:43:50 AM about the gravel rash - that a bit hard to get when all the contact points are protected - if you look at the stress response of fibre in a textile jacket compared to the mesh of the dainese protector, its more likely in fact that the textile jacket will tear and the underlying skin will become abraded. so you can't have everything! finally, im a neurosurgeon so not only have i seen gravel rash and more immediately following the trauma than most, i've also treated the spinal injury and i can tell you, the gravel rash just doesn't rate. thats why i think the neck part is a big deal. hmmm, your contact points may be protected whilst riding, but it's pretty easy for full jackets to roll around in a tumble, let alone a mesh that is there to compliment a jacket over the top. I can tell you from experience that gravel rash certainly does rate, the risk of infection and all that that entails is quite serious, never mind the delight of a scrub by some sadistic nurse that tells you "you brought this upon yourself"! And yes, i've had a spinal injury too, T3,T4,T6 compression fractures that had me in traction along with 9 other broken bones as well as a closed reduction of a fracture dislocation of my wrist, that's two falls, neither being my fault, and after my first i made the decision to never leave the house on my bike without all my gear, no matter how hot it is. Being a doctor and seeing the effects of bouncing off the road and other immovable things on the human body may have given you _some_experience as to what it's about, but until you experience the effects of a split second misfortune on your own body and mind, and those of your loved ones you can't truly appreciate the misery and pain it causes. paul. Title: Re: spine protectors Post by: Spider on July 31, 2008, 03:09:46 AM that was good, Paul [clap]
My idea for summer was a Dianese Delmar (with neck support - check it out Q) in white with perforations...I figure I never want the thought of "wonder if I'd have been less injured if i'd just worn....". Dainese Del Mar (http://www.motowheels.com/italian/myproducts.cfm?parentcategoryid=773|DAINESE%20Collection&productID=6136&showDetail=1&categoryID=776|Dainese%20Leather%20Jackets%3A%20Mens&vendoridtodisplay=0&filterFor=&collection=773|DAINESE%20Collection) |