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As reported by Crash.net:

FP1 took place in cold and windy conditions, with spots of rain throughout. A shower in the closing stages then effectively brought the session to an end...

1.   Jorge Lorenzo   ESP   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   1m   30.047s   [Lap 12/12]   331km/h (Top Speed)
2.   Marc Marquez   ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   1m   30.395s   +0.348s   [14/15]   336km/h
3.   Valentino Rossi   ITA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   1m   30.572s   +0.525s   [15/15]   329km/h
4.   Dani Pedrosa   ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   1m   30.669s   +0.622s   [11/12]   328km/h
5.   Jack Miller   AUS   LCR Honda (RC213V-RS)*   1m   30.712s   +0.665s   [15/15]   329km/h
6.   Cal Crutchlow   GBR   LCR Honda (RC213V)   1m   30.782s   +0.735s   [18/19]   339km/h
7.   Bradley Smith   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)   1m   30.902s   +0.855s   [15/17]   334km/h
8.   Andrea Iannone   ITA   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP15)   1m   30.967s   +0.920s   [11/15]   339km/h
9.   Pol Espargaro   ESP   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)   1m   31.111s   +1.064s   [10/18]   334km/h
10.   Maverick Viñales   ESP   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)*   1m   31.240s   +1.193s   [11/15]   330km/h
11.   Aleix Espargaro   ESP   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   1m   31.260s   +1.213s   [8/13]   330km/h
12.   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP15)   1m   31.385s   +1.338s   [14/16]   342km/h
13.   Nicky Hayden   USA   Aspar MotoGP Team (RC213V-RS)   1m   31.506s   +1.459s   [13/18]   328km/h
14.   Danilo Petrucci   ITA   Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2)   1m   31.670s   +1.623s   [10/15]   332km/h
15.   Mike Di Meglio   FRA   Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14 Open)   1m   31.670s   +1.623s   [3/13]   330km/h
16.   Hector Barbera   ESP   Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14 Open)   1m   31.702s   +1.655s   [5/11]   324km/h
17.   Scott Redding   GBR   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)   1m   31.772s   +1.725s   [10/15]   329km/h
18.   Yonny Hernandez   COL   Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2)   1m   32.121s   +2.074s   [15/16]   339km/h
19.   Alvaro Bautista   ESP   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   1m   32.173s   +2.126s   [14/15]   328km/h
20.   Eugene Laverty   IRL   Aspar MotoGP Team (RC213V-RS)*   1m   32.589s   +2.542s   [12/15]   324km/h
21.   Loris Baz   FRA   Forward Racing (Forward Yamaha)*   1m   32.756s   +2.709s   [14/15]   325km/h
22.   Toni Elias   SPA   Forward Racing (Forward Yamaha)   1m   32.959s   +2.912s   [11/14]   327km/h
23.   Stefan Bradl   GER   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   1m   33.558s   +3.511s   [7/16]   325km/h
24.   Anthony West   AUS   AB Motoracing (RC213V-RS)   1m   33.790s   +3.743s   [17/20]   321km/h
25.   Damian Cudlin   AUS   E-Motion IodaRacing (ART)   1m   36.091s   +6.044s   [11/12]   308km/h

And then FP2:

1.   Marc Marquez   ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   1m   29.383s   [Lap 17/19]   336km/h (Top Speed)
2.   Jorge Lorenzo   ESP   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   1m   29.433s   +0.050s   [16/18]   331km/h
3.   Maverick Viñales   ESP   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)*   1m   29.518s   +0.135s   [18/20]   330km/h
4.   Andrea Iannone   ITA   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP15)   1m   29.544s   +0.161s   [18/19]   346km/h
5.   Cal Crutchlow   GBR   LCR Honda (RC213V)   1m   29.579s   +0.196s   [16/20]   338km/h
6.   Dani Pedrosa   ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   1m   29.876s   +0.493s   [18/19]   328km/h
7.   Danilo Petrucci   ITA   Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2)   1m   30.021s   +0.638s   [17/21]   336km/h
8.   Bradley Smith   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)   1m   30.032s   +0.649s   [20/20]   334km/h
9.   Valentino Rossi   ITA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   1m   30.041s   +0.658s   [19/21]   333km/h
10.   Aleix Espargaro   ESP   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   1m   30.113s   +0.730s   [20/20]   328km/h
11.   Jack Miller   AUS   LCR Honda (RC213V-RS)*   1m   30.127s   +0.744s   [17/20]   332km/h
12.   Nicky Hayden   USA   Aspar MotoGP Team (RC213V-RS)   1m   30.184s   +0.801s   [18/21]   329km/h
13.   Hector Barbera   ESP   Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14 Open)   1m   30.278s   +0.895s   [19/20]   332km/h
14.   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP15)   1m   30.451s   +1.068s   [16/19]   343km/h
15.   Pol Espargaro   ESP   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)   1m   30.552s   +1.169s   [17/20]   334km/h
16.   Yonny Hernandez   COL   Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2)   1m   30.660s   +1.277s   [17/19]   341km/h
17.   Scott Redding   GBR   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)   1m   30.773s   +1.390s   [19/19]   331km/h
18.   Eugene Laverty   IRL   Aspar MotoGP Team (RC213V-RS)*   1m   30.910s   +1.527s   [19/20]   330km/h
19.   Alvaro Bautista   ESP   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   1m   31.260s   +1.877s   [4/21]   327km/h
20.   Mike Di Meglio   FRA   Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14 Open)   1m   31.339s   +1.956s   [13/18]   330km/h
21.   Stefan Bradl   GER   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   1m   31.577s   +2.194s   [17/21]   328km/h
22.   Toni Elias   SPA   Forward Racing (Forward Yamaha)   1m   32.122s   +2.739s   [18/21]   328km/h
23.   Loris Baz   FRA   Forward Racing (Forward Yamaha)*   1m   32.309s   +2.926s   [8/16]   323km/h
24.   Anthony West   AUS   AB Motoracing (RC213V-RS)   1m   32.592s   +3.209s   [17/19]   324km/h
25.   Damian Cudlin   AUS   E-Motion IodaRacing (ART)   1m   34.479s   +5.096s   [15/15]   315km/h

Interesting mixed bag of results...

Rossi may be down but he is matching JLo's pace

It was kind of incredible watching these laps live, everyone was running 130's and at one point crutchlow was at the top and then the aliens woke up and blasted into the sub 130's

Good stuff

Rabat out...

http://www.motogp.com/en/twitter_update/2015/10/16/after-his-moto2-fp2-crash-titorabat-will-not-ride-again/187210 (http://www.motogp.com/en/twitter_update/2015/10/16/after-his-moto2-fp2-crash-titorabat-will-not-ride-again/187210)

How are the tires doing this year?

The riders seem to like the new asymmetric front.

All the factory riders were on the softer option rear, and probably will race on it.

They flipped the configuration on the asymmetric front, now soft in the center and right side, hard on the left.

Intent was to make braking performance better than last year, where it was hard compound center and left, soft on right.

NICE! So will Ducati be able to use the soft tire in the race? The softest option for the factory teams is medium, but it would be a huge advantage if the soft tire would last the whole way through.

I'm pretty sure Iannone set his fast lap today on the soft, but I'm not sure if they've done any race simulations with it.

PI looks like so much fun to ride.

My boy Maverick in 4th in FP3.  8)

5th is another good result....

Miller in 11th is surprising me (as is Redding)

I did read comments that because the Honda spinning the rear has been an issue all season, the Honda riders are used to riding around that...
May explain them doing better than usual this season.

Wonder how much closer the Yamaha will get dialled in pre race, I expect Rossi to get a lot closer.

I would've thought to see dani P higher up the list

Quaifying results: Marquez, Ianonne, Lorenzo. Rossi a dismal 7th. He's got his work cut out for himself this race.

I had to laugh...Yourghey towed Iannone into second place.

He was pissed. Cracks me right up.

Pos.   Num.   Rider   Nation   Team   Bike   Km/h   Time   Gap 1st/Prev.
1   93   Marc MARQUEZ   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   337.8   1'28.364   
2   29   Andrea IANNONE   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati   346.5   1'28.680   0.316 / 0.316
3   99   Jorge LORENZO   SPA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP   Yamaha   333.1   1'28.680   0.316
4   26   Dani PEDROSA   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   332.3   1'28.712   0.348 / 0.032
5   35   Cal CRUTCHLOW   GBR   LCR Honda   Honda   340.0   1'28.912   0.548 / 0.200
6   25   Maverick VIÑALES   SPA   Team SUZUKI ECSTAR   Suzuki   328.3   1'28.932   0.568 / 0.020
7   46   Valentino ROSSI   ITA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP   Yamaha   334.5   1'29.014   0.650 / 0.082
8   41   Aleix ESPARGARO   SPA   Team SUZUKI ECSTAR   Suzuki   330.7   1'29.015   0.651 / 0.001
9   44   Pol ESPARGARO   SPA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   339.5   1'29.222   0.858 / 0.207
10   4   Andrea DOVIZIOSO   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati   347.1   1'29.267   0.903 / 0.045
11   45   Scott REDDING   GBR   EG 0,0 Marc VDS   Honda   337.6   1'29.499   1.135 / 0.232
12   38   Bradley SMITH   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   336.7   1'29.626   1.262 / 0.127

Jorghey and Aleix were livid. I love Iannone's reaction "oh well".

A Esp over reacted on Bautista, Bautista was on a flying lap as well. And I don't know what JLo was saying to Iannone but the body language of JLo look like his panties were in a bunch.

Should be a good race!

I watched the MM qualifying lap.  About 43 seconds in it looks like he makes a correction to prevent a low side.  Any comments.  Sterling

MM looks to beback confident with the bike. There were a few saves in his laps this weekend where he may have binned it at other times this season...

 
I believe every race this season that he started in that row, he's been on the podium.  ;)

Crazy Joe following him round in practice to wind him up...  [thumbsup]

...and won twice.

Iannone really had the strategy nailed down for Q2.  [thumbsup]

First run, he shadowed Aleix who was smokin' it and got 2nd, and Iannone 4th.
Second run, he left the pits in front of JLo, but let him by on the out lap, and then sat on his rear wheel for the hot lap and pipped Jlo by 0.017 sec.
Third run, AFAIK, he left the pits behind JLo, but sat on his rear wheel again, *matching* Jlo's hot lap time.

When there's a tie, the breaker is the next slowest lap.... and from the second run, Iannone was faster.

So Iannone follows JLO around twice, and qualifies ahead of him.   8)

I can understand JLo being a bit chapped by that.
Especially since Rossi handled him the same way on the first run at Motegi.
Still makes me laugh, though.  [laugh]

JLo's getting pummeled on strategy, adaptability, and consistency.

WUP MM is on fire

 [clap] 1-4 was some classic shit!  [thumbsup]

My boy Maverick brought it home 6th.

If you didnt watch that race....do it now...wow...amazing all the way through. Best gp race of the year so far. And that duc on the straights!!!

Best race I think I've ever seen.

Crazy Joe took a bird to the head  [bang]

Kopf's boy looked impressive out there  [thumbsup]

That was fan-fu*kn-tastic!

Big props to Iannone; saw the gull, put his head down, took the hit, and IIRC, didn't lose a place.
And it was in between Lukey Heights and MG.
Really Stellar!

Best race in a long time. [shot]

Oh, and I kept an eye on Iannone's Duc, and never did see where the rockets were mounted.
That thing was wicked.  [evil]

The helicopter footage from Gardner Straight was astonishing.
It's like it had a 7th gear; click, RRRRRrrrrrraaaawwwww, SEE-YA!

Great race, unbelievable that it was so close at the end.

Rossi, at 35, may be starting to feel his age this deep into the season - I know I was exhausted just watching after lap 6!

What's up with Fox Sports? They must have left their producer home, cause they ran only one commercial durign the race - and that was 30-minutes in. A very refreshing change!

That Ducati blew the paint off the Yamaha and Honda on the straight,staggering!

I had to have a couple of beers to calm my nerves. What a race!

Hands down best race this year.

I am so pisssssssed that one of my favs Ianone beat my #1 fav Rossi.   GRRRRRRR

Glad atleast 93 won it from 99 with few corners left.  

Don't like 99.  He was complaining that Ianone used his slipstream to get 2nd place qualifying.  Ofcourse after the race, because Ianone helped him by pushing Rossi, he is all friends and smiley with him.  He is just a complainer!   Last race, he complained that he could have won if the wet conditions had stayed.  IMHO, he does NOT have  sportsmanship character.   I HOPE HOPE HOPE he doesn't take the championship!!!!

WOW!

Moto3 was insane too.

[thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup]

I think after that bird strike Ianonne needs to get rid of that target graphic. Looks like the bird was aiming for it.

That pass by Crazy Joe on Rossi and Marquez with 3-4 laps to go was amazing and about as ballsy a move as I've ever seen.  [thumbsup]

There's a reason Rossi dubbed him the 'Maniac'.

Probably wishes he hadn't encouraged him right about now. ;)

GP phillip island 2015 Iannone's double overtake (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YntdCItRms8#)

^ That's the one.

Insane!  [evil]

It was like watching a Moto3 race. Ridiculous race, freaking loving it this season.

MotoGP 2015 Phillip Island Iannone hit the Bird (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov16srXKqZ8#)

That was the best MotoGP race I have seen in a very long time.

Great race!!!  [bow_down]

Great rides by everyone, but especially MM and Iannone. Perfect result IMO, as I want Rossi and JLo as close as possible in points come Valencia.

Don't get too excited on the Duc's speed...they're still using an extra 2L of fuel compared to Yamaha & Honda. That is why they were blowing the doors off of them, although they'd still be one of the faster bikes I think. Next year it's back to being level.

We might have seen Iannone's introduction to becoming an Alien. If he can get consistently up there, I would be crapping my pants if I was the one of the top 3 Aliens.

I doubt the 2L drove this. Where was Dovi? Phillip Island just suits the Duc.

I agree with you on Iannone. He was looking great.

I disagree on this...the 2L most definitely is the reason behind the power. They could be as lean as everyone else for the entire lap, and then put that extra 2L towards the straights. The rider still has to ride the bike though. Dovi just wasn't up to it today. Iannone has looked better than him for a lot of the season. Look at when Stoner won...where was Capirossi most of the time?

Dunno J...according to some interviews earlier in the season Ducati isn't even loading the extra 2l of fuel, and haven't been all season.

Maybe they're lying, but they claim that concession won't affect them at all.

That was an amazing race.  The best race I've ever seen!

The only thing that could have made that race better is if Iannone also passed J-lo on the last lap.

IANNONE!!!!!!  The man took a seagull to the head and kept going. J-whine's front wheel comes off the ground unexpectedly and he loses 1 second on his lap time.

What's with the extra wings on the Duc?  Did they hire an aviation engineer? 

I hope Iannone can improve as his shoulder gets stronger.

http://lanesplitter.jalopnik.com/australia-motogp-andrea-iannone-1-seagull-0-1737190734 (http://lanesplitter.jalopnik.com/australia-motogp-andrea-iannone-1-seagull-0-1737190734)

While it looks like Iannone head butts the bird, post race footage showed a massive chunk taken out of the front left corner of the fairing where the seagull hit. Everyone but the bird were fortunate enough to make it through the ordeal intact, and Iannone went on to ride a fantastic race.

what does the missing chunk say about aerodynamics? will we see honda and yamaha taking an ax to their farings to match the duc's speed on the straight?  ;D

Pic of the damage...you can see it on the TIM logo on the right side

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/151018172653-marquez-leads-exlarge-169.jpg)

Can't find video...but Kent got abused by Antonelli.

(http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/external?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcontent4.video.news.com.au%2Ffoxsports%2Fprod%2Farchive%2F2015%2F10%2F18%2FDVU_181015_MOT_MOTO_3_SPECTACULAR_CHAMPIONSHIP_DECIDING_CRASH_PKG.jpg&width=650&api_key=kq7wnrk4eun47vz9c5xuj3mc)

I still say that if J_lo hit the bird he would have pitted in. The trama would have been to much for him to overcome.

And that double overtake was amazing!

Someone please give Iannone a real bike.  It's taking Ducati too long.

Seeing Marc and Iannone celebrating on the podium was great.  It was genuine excitement.  And J-lo was there too.

I was sure J-lo had cooked his tires dealing with Iannone during the early part of the race. I was also hoping a flock of seagulls would have swooped down and carried him away.

Did Iannone have the soft rear?

Not true entirely. They were allowed 24L at the beginning of the year. They claimed they weren't using the full 24L, as they knew they'd lose 2L with any good results (which happened early on). That's the 2L they were talking about. They've been using 22L all season.

No reason to only use 20L...everyone gets 22L next year. Might as well optimize for that now. Still is an advantage this season though. They won't be blowing the doors off of the Yamaha next season...although the Ducs have always had good power, so they'll still probably be a little faster.

Ahhh...

I misunderstood.

Both Ducs used the same tires as the two Yamahas and the Hondas.

A couple of open bikes used the soft.

The issue with the Ducks has never been fuel efficiency, in fact it'seems been the power eating the rear. I doubt that will change next year regardless of fuel allowance.

https://www.facebook.com/motogpseagulls (https://www.facebook.com/motogpseagulls)

Kinda, but I disagree with "abused" adjective.  First time I saw replay I thought it was a typical "racing incident": Kent passed on outside but was just ahead when Antonelli lifted up and clipped his rear.  So I thought it was Kent getting a little aggressive and fate stepping in capriciously.  Subsequent replays weren't great, but it appears that Antonelli should have been able to avoid contact, but still, it was an aggressive move and part of what makes Moto3 so much Moto3-y.

Anyway, my $0.02.  Helluva hide side, though, as your pic shows.

You really need to see the race...not just the replay of the incident.

All those guys are aggressive, and that's what makes it so much fun to watch. I think Antonelli was out of control. He started way back on the grid, and there was plenty of time for him to achieve whatever he could, but he wanted to win the race on that corner.

Bastianini wasn't pleased either.

Just another perspective.

Fuel has never been the problem. The front end has always been the problem.

I wonder if the extra wings helped, is he just getting used to the bike or was it the track?

I watched it live (well, "live" via motogp.com 12 hrs after the actual race), and I had thought Kent was riding aggressively there, too.  He had gone wide after his rear was clipped by Bagnaia two laps before, knocking Kent from 2nd to 16th.  Then Kent ran back up to 6th-or-so when the Antonelli crash occurred.  He was behind Antonelli and took the turn wide and passed on the outside---could be Antonelli didn't see him until it was too late.  Replay seems to show Antonelli picking up early---maybe Kent's presence on the outside made him nervous.  In any case, I think Kent was riding aggressive as he was trying to make up for lost positioning after the Bagnaia incident, but in the end, as I said, racing incident.

But yeah, all of them are super aggressive, which is why it is so much fun to watch!  I guess some of that aggro even spilled over into motogp this race. ;D

And Marquez is there at full lean, one handed, messing with a tear-off? Jeepers.

Probably updating his Twitter feed in the straights...

^Haha.  Nice.  There is a great quote for him on motogp.com about having overheated tires on the last three laps and trying to cool them and it not working so he basically said f@*& it, I'm just gonna go all out anyway.  If I heard the announcers correctly, Marquez's last lap was the fastest of the race by anyone and he picked up a full second on Lorenzo!   :o  Taking "alien" to a new level.


Some more stills that capture the weekend:


(http://ultimatemotorcycling.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/2015-phillip-island-motogp-results-australia-gp-recap-6.jpg)


(http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/2e83000090e857e7b94bd9e54b499c5e)


(http://i.imgur.com/kKIPx6s.jpg)

Damn, hadn't noticed that.  [bow_down]

Reminds me of my amateur motocross days, seeing Bob Hannah pull a tearoff or turn around to look behind him mid-jump.
I'd have ended up on a stretcher.

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2015/10/19/iannone-i-fought-with-the-best-riders/187553 (http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2015/10/19/iannone-i-fought-with-the-best-riders/187553)

He fought with the best because I believe he can beat the best. 

If it wasn't for Iannone this would have been just another snooze fest with J-lo running away from the start of the race. 

Did anyone catch Marc's bike coming onto the straight when the rear was bucking and the front had a serious head shake going on?  How does he stay on that thing?

MM would have kept it interesting regardless of Demented Joseph, but it was great to see a 4 rider battle.

If I were Iannone I would be make sure I kept that shoulder dislocated at least once or twice a season. It was almost directly after the first dislocation that he started to get results right?  And after the second one he podiums in a dry tight race against the top riders of the class.

And that MM pic is ridiculous.

Next year will definitely be very interesting considering how the young guys are racing now. Between Michelin and ECU we'll see how guys like Jorghey adapt.

Bastianini's perspective:

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2015/10/19/bastianini-kent-was-in-too-much-hurry-to-get-back/187711 (http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2015/10/19/bastianini-kent-was-in-too-much-hurry-to-get-back/187711)

Of course he feels that way. I probably would too.

I'm thinking that Kent figured he needed to get to the front and go away so people would stop hitting him.

Didn't think they'd top Qatar this year, but Jeebus that was fine.


http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/motogp/summary-sunday-australian-gp-2015/#more-95325 (http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/motogp/summary-sunday-australian-gp-2015/#more-95325)

from what I have been reading from clicking on tabs, in Italy many people are NOT happy with Crazy Joe's move . . . They're even insulting him :o

 [thumbsup]

make the beast with two backs em

+1

The stat that there were more passes in that race than all of F1 this season says it all. Sports commentators down here more into ball sports converted to Moto GP after seeing the race. People really liked seeing the riders work the bike with their bodies. That race did alot for the sport here. Crazy Andrews pass has so many talking on the media. The one eyed Rossi fans are being dickheads, Rossi would have celebrated that double pass. That stuff enthuses him big time.

+2

Rossi fans can be whiners.

Another bit of info. I didn't know about as well. Iannone was on a brand new motor (#9/12). The other 3 were on their 5th, and last, motors, and none of theirs were brand new. So, besides the extra 2L, Ducati can run their motors at a higher state of tune since they have more.

This is all good news IMO. I expect the next 2 races to be very entertaining as well!!

He definitely did not appreciate that it was against him, but he did appreciate the actual pass.

I have a feeling if Lorenzo is ahead or very close (< 5 pts) by Valencia, it's over.  Rossi has a mixed record on that track and JLo seems to be very comfortable in his home country races.  Of course, anything can happen to change that (a few rain drops, for example), but in a way I feel like the championship is more-or-less coming down to Sepang.

+1 Rossi will need to focus all his effort finishing in front of Jorghey in Sepang. He needs a big buffer going into Valencia.

Yep. He was thinking, "Great pass, fantastico Andrea, but not today, make the beast with two backsing!" ;D

If it comes down to Valencia, I expect Rossi to turn in a banner performance. No one seems to be able to elevate his game like him. Sepang will be extremely important though, I agree.

Stoner should have beat him easily at Laguna in 2008, and we all know how that ended!

It's highly unlikely Jorghey would not dominate at Valencia.

Here is a snapshot of an Italian newspaper telling Iannone to emigrate to Spain since he is NOT a TRUE Italian

(https://fbcdn-photos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xta1/v/t1.0-0/s526x395/12109011_1025626457488548_3745871986542905080_n.jpg?oh=cb9267dad9e83007db8a409ccf8ee08c&oe=56BD0AC4&__gda__=1452089531_6a05d84041a207f90bd410295e766acc)

In the most true sense of racing is racing and you earn your stripes then, yes.  In another picture all he did was help Jorge and hurt Rossi.  The only benefit for Iannone is that he got a podium. It didn't really affect his standing, it did not affect the team standing or the manufacturers standing. Finishing 4th would not have hurt whatever contract options he has with the team either. In effect he was working for Lorenzo by doing what he did. If he was able to beat Jorge then that truly would have been a different story.

He got on the podium because that's what he's paid to do. I pay a premium to MotoGP each year to watch the best riders in the world race and hopefully get a glimpse of Ducati at least attempting to be competitive. If he would have let Rossi pass him, I would have fired him on the spot.

I'll say it again, the only thing that would have made this race better was if Iannone past J-lo on the last lap.

But I believe that if Iannone wasn't passing, leading and mixing it up, in the begining, J-lo would have, in his usual precise manner, just ran away.  Iannone was the rain, that minor disturbance that kept J-lo from going to his happy place and carving endless perfect laps. 


It's racing!  It's not "what do we need to do to make sure Rossi wins?"   

Mario Salvini, you're a dick head.

Exactly.  [thumbsup] [thumbsup] This isn't F1, and he doesn't race for Italy. He races for himself and Ducati.

I think that ianonne had a real ahot at that race all the way. That is the first race where i can confidently say ducati is real close to being back in the championship fight.

Did anybody else feel like MM had the pace to pass Lorenzo sooner than the final lap?

I got the feeling that he was purposely hanging back to keep Rossi and Iannone at bay.

Where is my tin foil hat?

If he was hanging back I think it was because he didn't feel like he could gap JLo. Therefore, better just pass on the last lap and not let JLo learn where he is weak.

  :-\ :-X [bang]

He was quoted on motogp as having overheated the front tire and so was trying to cool down.  Thus he was holding back in order to lower the temperature and make it last to end of race.  But then he just said screw it, I'm going for it.


http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2015/10/19/marquez-i-overheated-the-front-tyre/187558 (http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2015/10/19/marquez-i-overheated-the-front-tyre/187558)

Italian Andrew was trying to win.

I saw the Marquez interview. The Island punishes tyres thats for sure.

And waterfowl.  ;D

Numerous incidents come to mind. Corser and Edwards in SBK were big hits.

A seagull is not waterfowl...more of a floating crow. :P

Theyll pinch your fish and chips outta your hand.

Just rewatched some of the race and saw this: Early on with 22 laps to go (at 22:30 on the motogp video), Iannone made the exact same move on Marquez and Rossi as he did at the end of the race ("The Pass").  Literally, the same move in the same corner: Rossi passed Marquez and then Iannone slipped in as the two others left an opening.  Except in this case he couldn't quite get past Rossi. 

Very interesting to actually see a learning moment in real time.  He found a move and kept it in his pocket and waited for the situation to present itself.

Exactly how I felt when I read that comment.

We probably should cancel that one and give 25 to George and what 16 to Rossi...eh? That way we can just crown the champ after Malaysia and save a whole week. ;D

Maybe we should give Rossi 20 points.

Nah, I want them to go into Valencia tied in points and then for everyone to crash on the last lap and then for Rossi and Lorenzo to foot race to the finish just like in Talladega Nights: The Legend of Ricky Bobby.  It seems the only fitting finish to this silly season.

:-*

That would be awesome!!!!!!   ;D

Peace you guys! I still say racing is racing and you earn your stripes. And I hope Rossi earns the title this year.  My earlier post was just another way of looking at the race the way a lot of Europeans do. I can see it both ways and can understand how the Italians and the rabid Rossi fans feel.

Those Italians are a bunch of idiots. Rossi is not Iannone's teammate and even if he was, there would need to be an established team order thing for him to do that. It's a BS reaction coming from the Rossi fanboys.

Says the guy giving Valencia to his homey You'reghey.

So much impassioned controversy!  Good thing these races are a week apart instead of the usual two weeks.  Otherwise, the speculation would undo us.

My boy will destroy all competition with his perfect laps. Their heads will explode from simply witnessing such perfection!

If You'reghey's perfection was any more perfect...his helmet would no longer fit.

All Rossi has to do is spit on the track in front of him and he'll be forced to slow down. [cheeky]

I'd like to see a tie, then go here for 6 laps to crown the champ.  [evil]


- 2015 - " ISLE OF MAN " - TT - ✔ - ROAD_WARRIORS - ✔ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtZlm9Lp7q4#)

...using sidecars!  With Iannone in Rossi's sidecar and Marquez in Jorge's sidecar.   [evil]

Jorghey will simply create a perfect bubble that will shield him from Rossi imperfect attempts at disturbing his magnificence

Except if the person in seat 102 is wearing yellow and is drinking a Coke or  there's a chance of rain.  That would be too disturbing for Mr. Easily-disturbed-from-his-endless-perfect-laps and he would have to settle for 7th, if he finishes.   ;D

Crazy Joe for the win in Sepang.
Engine 10 tuned for extra night time flames.

While not exactly a Jorge fan I am not a hater either. Thought last wet race he did better than I thought he would. Prefer racing to procession laps but liked PI how they all did some fighting.

A JL fan!  Now things are a bit more clear.   ;D  :-*

I hate George. There I said it. ;D

I don't want Motogp to become F1.

I hate F1 too.

 [laugh]

But you need your Jorges for your Rossi's and Millers (in the future) to run into and your Crazy Joes to annoy...
I like seeing the diversity of styles. Sure the race at the front is over when he is in that perfect zone and starts at the front. Honda will need to make sure he is not starting at the front every round.
MM will be creating havoc next season again.

I've tried to like J-lo. The fargin guy can ride!  Man he can ride perfect lap after perfect!  But as soon as another rider gets close to him, he either falls apart or the after race behavior is disappointing.

But he makes it so hard to like him.  After one of his recent 1st place finishes, I  actually wanted to see him fall off his bike while standing on the seat make some ridiculous gesture.

J-lo = delicate genius

George is a machine.

I want to see people...people that I'd like to be...

racing...yes racing...

in motogp...

not machines.

That's F1...make the beast with two backs that.

Getty pissy with the Maniac is un machine like...
F1 would be if they were all Jorge like. Which they are not. Diversity is key. And not being controlled by PR depts.

His finger wagging at MM is what pushed me over from wishing he doesnt win to disliking him as a person.

I prefer he fall off the podium after one of those ridiculous celebratory jumps he does.

I'm not a huge JLo fan either...he whines too much for me. That said, he's one of the most impressive riders ever IMO. His ability to lay down scorching fast laps repeatedly, and manage his lap times according to the situation is remarkable. I prefer racers that enjoy actual racing, which is why I like MM and Rossi, but JLo is most definitely impressive and I have a lot of admiration for the guy. Not everyone has the public personality of Rossi or Marquez.

JLo.  I respect him........ I don't care for him.