Title: 2017 MotoGP Catalunya (spoilt) Post by: kopfjäger on June 09, 2017, 06:31:48 AM FP 2
1. = Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 44.295s [Lap 20/20] 342km/h (Top Speed) 2. ^11 Jorge Lorenzo ESP Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17) 1m 44.700s +0.405s [17/19] 343km/h 3. ^2 Jonas Folger GER Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)* 1m 44.839s +0.544s [16/18] 337km/h 4. ˅1 Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17) 1m 44.883s +0.588s [15/16] 343km/h 5. ^5 Danilo Petrucci ITA Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP17) 1m 44.890s +0.595s [17/18] 340km/h 6. ^16 Tito Rabat ESP Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V) 1m 44.922s +0.627s [16/17] 339km/h 7. ^4 Johann Zarco FRA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)* 1m 45.063s +0.768s [16/17] 337km/h 8. ˅4 Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 45.098s +0.803s [16/18] 338km/h 9. ˅1 Alvaro Bautista ESP Pull&Bear Aspar Team (Desmosedici GP16) 1m 45.116s +0.821s [16/20] 344km/h 10. ^7 Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 45.118s +0.823s [17/17] 337km/h 11. ^10 Hector Barbera ESP Reale Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP16) 1m 45.311s +1.016s [14/15] 341km/h 12. ˅3 Scott Redding GBR Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP16) 1m 45.375s +1.080s [16/17] 341km/h 13. ^1 Andrea Iannone ITA Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 45.465s +1.170s [17/18] 341km/h 14. ^6 Aleix Espargaro ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 45.554s +1.259s [15/15] 339km/h 15. ^8 Loris Baz FRA Reale Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 45.755s +1.460s [14/17] 337km/h 16. ˅10 Maverick Viñales ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 45.810s +1.515s [11/17] 337km/h 17. ˅5 Jack Miller AUS Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V) 1m 45.868s +1.573s [18/18] 337km/h 18. ˅2 Karel Abraham CZE Pull&Bear Aspar Team (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 45.932s +1.637s [18/20] 339km/h 19. ˅17 Cal Crutchlow GBR LCR Honda (RC213V) 1m 45.967s +1.672s [3/14] 336km/h 20. ˅13 Sam Lowes GBR Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)* 1m 46.682s +2.387s [4/16] 334km/h 21. ˅6 Pol Espargaro ESP Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16) 1m 46.946s +2.651s [11/15] 336km/h 22. ˅4 Sylvain Guintoli FRA Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 47.002s +2.707s [3/19] 340km/h 23. ˅4 Bradley Smith GBR Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16) 1m 47.892s +3.597s [16/18] 334km/h Title: Re: 2017 MotoGP Catalunya (spoilt) Post by: duccarlos on June 09, 2017, 06:33:57 AM FP1 sucked. The track was damp, but not fully wet.
Title: Re: 2017 MotoGP Catalunya (spoilt) Post by: duccarlos on June 09, 2017, 06:46:24 AM The highlight of FP1 was Jackass messing up the new chicane until he was black flagged.
Title: Re: 2017 MotoGP Catalunya (spoilt) Post by: kopfjäger on June 09, 2017, 10:07:36 AM http://m.crash.net/motogp/news/252230/1/miller-on-fp1-mishap-oh-you-idiot.html
Title: Re: 2017 MotoGP Catalunya (spoilt) Post by: Speeddog on June 09, 2017, 10:53:55 AM That revised chicane is causing a lot of mayhem.
Several riders losing it in the left, and the bikes end up in the middle of the track on the right. End of FP2, Baz's bike almost took out 3 guys. Ducatis looking pretty flash, hope they can hold the pace. A couple of lap times cancelled from dubious conclusions, Marquez and Vinales losing out after going at speed through the chicane just after Baz went down. They were already past the marshall stations before the yellow flags came out, so that's not valid. Pic shows Baz sitting at the apex of 15, his bike just to the right, narrowly missing a torpedo job on one of the Aprilias. Yellow flags are just now coming out, with Vinales and Marquez entering T14. This is the first moment that their view would be looking abnormal, frankly I think they did a good job not hitting his bike. (https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4213/34815838070_b1bccea27f_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/V3ygGb) Title: Re: 2017 MotoGP Catalunya (spoilt) Post by: Speeddog on June 09, 2017, 11:21:30 AM They've reverted to last year's chicane layout:
https://motomatters.com/news/2017/06/09/barcelona_to_revert_to_old_f1_chicane.html So Jacko's got a bit of a head start on the field! [laugh] Title: Re: 2017 MotoGP Catalunya (spoilt) Post by: koko64 on June 10, 2017, 04:55:42 AM Pedro on pole
2nd Lorenzo 3rd Monkey MM had a rough day crashing four times today, but out qualified his championship rivals who struggled. A gutsy effort. One bike was unusable and the other needed repairs. A real crashfest all over for many riders this weekend. Title: Re: 2017 MotoGP Catalunya (spoilt) Post by: Speeddog on June 10, 2017, 08:26:39 AM Two Ducatis on the front row, and 5 of the top 10!
Bumpy and greasy, just the way the Yamahas like it! [laugh] Factory Yamahas will be in damage limitation mode. Rossi's front tire shown at the start of Q1 was ridonkulous. Aleix getting a lot out of that Ape. Title: Re: 2017 MotoGP Catalunya (spoilt) Post by: koko64 on June 10, 2017, 09:01:57 AM Yeah that tyre was chewed to pieces like a thrashed rear. I've never seen a front like that.
Title: Re: 2017 MotoGP Catalunya (spoilt) Post by: duccarlos on June 10, 2017, 10:35:24 AM Yeah that tyre was chewed to pieces like a thrashed rear. I've never seen a front like that. I seem to remember issues in PI a few years ago with tires being destroyed.Title: Re: 2017 MotoGP Catalunya (spoilt) Post by: koko64 on June 10, 2017, 01:37:35 PM I remember the LHS of rear tyres being wrecked at the Island, but that front being chewed is amazing.
Title: Re: 2017 MotoGP Catalunya (spoilt) Post by: koko64 on June 10, 2017, 01:55:15 PM From MM's comments it seems the front tyre loses too much stability in the heat. It seems those who are harder on the front are stressing it beyond it's limits.
Title: Re: 2017 MotoGP Catalunya (spoilt) Post by: DarkMonster620 on June 10, 2017, 02:43:23 PM everyone, get their tutus out for race day . . .
Title: Re: 2017 MotoGP Catalunya (spoilt) Post by: koko64 on June 11, 2017, 04:58:15 AM Dovi again! What a late bloomer!
MM rode a great character race after a torrid weekend for 20 valuable points. Five crashes this weekend and gutted it out for second. Pedro 3rd. Title: Re: 2017 MotoGP Catalunya (spoilt) Post by: duccarlos on June 11, 2017, 07:11:22 AM DOVI! DOVI! DOVI!!
Holy shit!! Give this man a new contract today! Title: Re: 2017 MotoGP Catalunya (spoilt) Post by: kopfjäger on June 11, 2017, 08:34:39 AM [clap]
Great stuff. Dovi's on fire! Lorenzo was wringing that bikes neck in the latter part of that race! :o Title: Re: 2017 MotoGP Catalunya (spoilt) Post by: duccarlos on June 11, 2017, 08:40:10 AM [clap] He was running the same pace as Pedrosa at the end. I am now convinced his issue is more with his fitness. We know the Duc requires a lot more effort than the Yamaha. Jorghey obviously had enough tire to mount a comeback. Great stuff. Dovi's on fire! Lorenzo was wringing that bikes neck in the latter part of that race! :o Title: Re: 2017 MotoGP Catalunya (spoilt) Post by: ducpainter on June 11, 2017, 09:46:21 AM He was running the same pace as Pedrosa at the end. I am now convinced his issue is more with his fitness. We know the Duc requires a lot more effort than the Yamaha. Jorghey obviously had enough tire to mount a comeback. I think he might have figured it out. He was backing the thing into the corners at the end of the race too.Definitely not George's old style. Dovi deserves a raise. Title: Re: 2017 MotoGP Catalunya (spoilt) Post by: koko64 on June 11, 2017, 05:40:34 PM Yeah I hope the win bonus is good, Dovi has a family to look after.
JL did well to start getting a feel for riding the Duc hard. 4th ain't bad, but I think podiums are now expected. Was it that the tyres of his competitors degraded to give him a level playing field, or that he found a way to speak Ducati? Maybe he isn't strong enough to muscle the bike and needed a break (unlikely)? Maybe he felt muscling the bike would cause crashes, but he now realises that you gotta grab that bike by the scruff of the neck? Or is it all in his head and he has a new mindset with the bike, (forget smooth and get aggro)? I feel Ducati should chase MM with big bucks because he could ride it imo. I think a Ducati seconds team should grab Jack too. Title: Re: 2017 MotoGP Catalunya (spoilt) Post by: kopfjäger on June 12, 2017, 02:51:53 PM Final test times from today.
http://m.crash.net/motogp/results/252369/1/catalunya-motogp-test-times-monday-final.html Title: Re: 2017 MotoGP Catalunya (spoilt) Post by: kopfjäger on June 12, 2017, 02:53:23 PM http://m.crash.net/motogp/news/252371/1/rossi-new-chassis-more-fun.html
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