...so i got rear ended some time ago and my nav no workey anymore :(
the CD unit reader/brain in located in the rear of the car...since the hit, it will not keep the CD in nor read it...i push it in and it spits it back out...
The dealer of said car will not deal with insurance companies directly so ill have to pay upfront (o lot) for anything that is wrong then the insurance will pay me back (yeah right)....here is the twist
the dealer said they cant determine if it was accident related or not because they dont open the units. They verify its not working and just swap it out for a new one...no repairs (bull shit) so i most likely will have to pay dealer prices to get a unit replaced without even trying to fix it....
so loooooooooooooooooooong story short i need someone who can open the damn thing and repair it.....its going to be on my dime so... :)
thanks
luca
ps: im in LA
Navteq (the navigation company for VW) may be the same company. If so, good luck. My dealer is the same way for the Nav DVD's. They won't do anything for you, just give you an 800 number to call.
http://www.navteq.com/ (http://www.navteq.com/)
Quote from: NAKID on August 13, 2008, 01:54:54 PM
Navteq (the navigation company for VW) may be the same company. If so, good luck. My dealer is the same way for the Nav DVD's. They won't do anything for you, just give you an 800 number to call.
http://www.navteq.com/ (http://www.navteq.com/)
yep...Navteq only provides the CDs with the maps but has nothing to do with the actual reader...but thanks for trying :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqny_i7z0kk
What kind of vehicle and what kind of NAV unit?
a Range Rover 04 ...unit is a MKIII, Philips
same unit that BMWs have
buy'a map'a pussy cat
or just get a new ride luca [roll]
sheesh [laugh]
Quote from: DuCaTiNi on August 14, 2008, 12:53:38 PM
or just get a new ride luca [roll]
sheesh [laugh]
...no shitt, that car has given me soooo many problems [roll]...im still trying to take it with phylosophy [coffee]
I used to work on Audi's and anytime the nav units went out they just went out. Same deal, if it was bad we would just replace it. I can't tell you how many I replaced after they were in an accident. I would think that yours is the same. Your probably looking at replacing it.
...i see
well, here is how it "works"...
i put the disc in and it spits it right back out...
sometimes it thinks a bit and then it spits it back out
sometimes (1 out of 20) it will keep the disc and it would work perfect till i turn off the car and restart it...
so my wishfull thinking is that the unit per se works fine but a mechanical element in it is failing to recognize the disc as good...
...i though i could bring it to someone who repairs DVDs and CDs to have them take a look at it...
no? yes?
???
Probably cheaper to just buy a whole new rover...
Quote from: NAKID on August 14, 2008, 02:22:24 PM
Probably cheaper to just buy a whole new rover...
...yeah, the dealer guy said he had diagnosted it ( $135 +tax) so i ask him what was wrong with it...
he said it was an internal failior.
-"i see, what kind of failor are we talking about here?"
-"electical"
-"as in a circuti short?"
-" i cant say"
-"you cant say?"
-"nope"
-"...so explane me the diagnistic process please..."
(after several minutes of me and him going back at eachother and receving nonsense answers)
-"well,
1) i took the CD out of your unit
2) i put it in a working unit
3) i verified that the CD was working in an other unit
4) i took a known working CD out of a working unit
5) i put it in your unit
6) i verified that your unit was not working"
-"and u expect me to pay you $135+tax for this operation?"
-"yes"
-"...where is your manager?"
-"...emmm...at lunch"
-" you better call her cell and ask her tome back fast 'cause im going to start shouting in 30seconds"
-"...*rebecca?...yes, its Bijorn, could you please come back at the shop?...we have a problem with a custumer...* she is opn her way"
5min later Rebecca comes out
-"hi, im the manager, i understand there is a problem"
-"you are correct, there is a problem and the problem is.....(repeat all story)...and i am not going to pay you for that."
-"well, we did a diagnostic and the founding was that there is an internal fault. Where is the problem?"
*i start raising my voice to make sure all the cusutmers on the floor wold hear"
-"the problem is that you are tying to charge me $135 for swaping a CD, keeping my car 2 days, no loner so rental ($) and not being able to determine where the fault is!"
-"ok Sir, in this case we will wave the diagnostic fee for you"
bull shit!!!
...quote for mew Nav? $2500 + labour ;D ;D ;D and what they install is a refurbished one that probably had my same problem 2months ago ;D ;D
sorry for the rant [drink]
wow that sucks >:(
I'm not sure you need a new rover, just a new rover dealer...
step one: start vehicle
step two: turn on nav system
step three: go to rear of vehicle
step four: hit nav system with closed fist
step five: go back to nav screen in front of vehicle and check for proper opperation of nav system.
step six: repeat steps three and four until nav system works.
* in extreme cases, it may be necessary for nav owner to find hot chick who sells nav systems. Bang her till she's convinced you are into her. Then, when you are convinced that she's into you, announce that your system has failed. After she gives you a replacement system (an act of love on her end), stop returning her calls.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQfetXCTFbI
Luca. Just go an get a new nav system.
$1000 bucks and a better system http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?g=182350&i=113DNX5120&tp=526
If you look on CL, you can find a shop that sells these installed for ~700 brand new. This unit uses the latest Garmin nav technology and has a ton of internal memory as well. NavTeq navs are shit anyhow.
Quote from: bobspapa on August 14, 2008, 03:17:35 PM
* in extreme cases, it may be necessary for nav owner to find hot chick who sells nav systems. Bang her till she's convinced you are into her. Then, when you are convinced that she's into you, announce that your system has failed. After she gives you a replacement system (an act of love on her end), stop returning her calls.
how evil bp...
minus 10 points!
I don't know the specifics of your vehicle but I wouldn't just go buy a new system. Newer cars have trouble taking aftermarket electronics because of the way they communicate information. I would look online for a used unit (yours is definetly bad and there is probably nothing anyone can do for faulty internals). I think the dealership is correct in saying that they can't fix it because that is not how it works in a high end dealership. If a module or part is faulty they just replace it. Very, very rarely do they try and fix something internal on an electronic part.
+1 on just getting a new system. I bet the navteq has some crappy reader in it and the laser got knocked around too hard in the accident and is out of alignment. You might try taking it to a computer/ DVD repair shop if you REALLY want to but it would probably end up cheaper or equal price to swap it out with something better.
Does your truck have a mmi screen or something of that nature? Or is it a remote screen that you put on the dash or window? If it is a screen in the dash that also works the radio and such be careful because most of those use fiberoptics to communitcate info.
Quote from: bobspapa on August 14, 2008, 12:45:24 PM
buy'a map'a pussy cat
(http://www.thomasguidebooks.com/images/Los%20Angeles%20Thomas%20Guide%20Easy%20to%20Read%202008%20868497.jpg)
Quote from: Mother on August 15, 2008, 06:56:02 AM
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....yeah right, and just how do you expect me to be able to consult one of those wile driving and drinking my coffe ? [roll]
Quote from: Lucazuma on August 15, 2008, 12:07:44 PM
....yeah right, and just how do you expect me to be able to consult one of those wile driving and drinking my coffe ? [roll]
I do
at 90 MPH
every night
I will teach you
Quote from: Mother on August 15, 2008, 05:59:23 PM
I do
at 90 MPH
every night
I will teach you
Shouldn't your partner be looking while you're driving? Once on scene, you should be able to figure out your way to the hospital...
Least reliable vehicle on the market.
Coupled with really poor service. :-\
Quote from: NAKID on August 17, 2008, 07:17:59 PM
Shouldn't your partner be looking while you're driving? Once on scene, you should be able to figure out your way to the hospital...
he's a paramagic
the last thing you want to do is trust a medic with a map...or driving...or drug math...