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Title: ignition switch
Post by: Galway_Girl on May 08, 2008, 08:17:13 AM
this is my first post about something technical, so please try to be patient with me :-[ back in january (actually before that) anyway i had a rather difficult time starting my bike. once it started it was fine and all was right with the world. unfortunately, when i turned off my bike i had a very hard time starting it again, not a dead battery or out of gas nothing of the sort after moving the bike around it would magically start. i am thinking that my ignition switch is well just old :( my question is does it need to be replaced or could it be corroded (if so could i clean it and it would be fine)? everything else on the bike is great, but it is a little embarrassing riding around and then wanting to stop only to have to pray that my bike will start again without looking like a idiot moving her bike all around.

thx to anyone that can give me some direction :)


Title: Re: ignition switch
Post by: Pakhan on May 08, 2008, 08:26:24 AM
couple of questions:

year of bike?  Fuel injection?  Does your bike have an immobilizer?


Title: Re: ignition switch
Post by: Galway_Girl on May 08, 2008, 08:28:20 AM
couple of questions:

year of bike?  Fuel injection?  Does your bike have an immobilizer?

93-no-no


Title: Re: ignition switch
Post by: Pakhan on May 08, 2008, 08:33:51 AM
when you try to start do the dash lights and headlight come on?  Does it make any noise like it's trying to start?  Or dash lights and headlight on but no noise at all of trying to start?  Does the bike start if you turn the bars one way (left or right)?



Title: Re: ignition switch
Post by: Galway_Girl on May 08, 2008, 08:41:51 AM
when you try to start do the dash lights and headlight come on?  Does it make any noise like it's trying to start?  Or dash lights and headlight on but no noise at all of trying to start?  Does the bike start if you turn the bars one way (left or right)?



hi pakhan

thank you for responding :) all the lights come on no flickering, no noise and no it does not start if i try to move the bars.  it is like the bike is on its own riding & resting plan and we can go riding when it feels like it. r:e)


Title: Re: ignition switch
Post by: CDawg on May 08, 2008, 08:57:13 AM
IF the lights are all working fine, chances are the ignition contacts are okay.  Top 3 to check would be: 1) is the starter button working properly, 2) are your plugs in good shape, and 3) are your battery strong enought.  If your battery is somewhat weak, all the lights and gizmos will work, but the bike won't start.


Title: Re: ignition switch
Post by: Galway_Girl on May 08, 2008, 09:02:37 AM
IF the lights are all working fine, chances are the ignition contacts are okay.  Top 3 to check would be: 1) is the starter button working properly, 2) are your plugs in good shape, and 3) are your battery strong enought.  If your battery is somewhat weak, all the lights and gizmos will work, but the bike won't start.

hi cdawg

all of the things you pointed out, i have checked and all are working properly that is why i thought the switch may be making a slow exit.  it is the original switch i believe and it does not have any weird issues other than i press it and it starts when it wants.


Title: Re: ignition switch
Post by: Pakhan on May 08, 2008, 09:03:30 AM
+1 ^

Check battery output, connection between battery/ starter/ starter button.  I wouldn't bother checking the plugs though, if it's not turning over the plugs are not the issue.  Because you say you have to move the bike around to start it I would guess a loose or corroded connection.


Title: Re: ignition switch
Post by: aaronb on May 08, 2008, 09:09:58 AM
are you trying to start it in gear?  sidestand or clutch switch maybe?


Title: Re: ignition switch
Post by: Galway_Girl on May 08, 2008, 09:17:36 AM
+1 ^

Check battery output, connection between battery/ starter/ starter button.  I wouldn't bother checking the plugs though, if it's not turning over the plugs are not the issue.  Because you say you have to move the bike around to start it I would guess a loose or corroded connection.

I am really thinking the issue is corrosion or possibly loose, so i will be tackling this on sunday. to answer you question below i always start in neutral and it is not a sidestand or clutch issue.


Title: Re: ignition switch
Post by: ducrider45 on May 08, 2008, 11:32:30 AM
Sory to be off topic, but I just wanted to say that I have been to Galway. great screen name. wt:


Title: Re: ignition switch
Post by: Ddan on May 08, 2008, 04:27:17 PM
Follow the wire up from your starter.  The other end of that wire is connected to your solenoid.  There is a small white connector that is easily disconnected and will cause the problems you're describing.  If that's OK, the other wire on the solenoid goes to your battery, make sure both ends of that are tight.


Title: Re: ignition switch
Post by: Howie on May 08, 2008, 07:55:54 PM
If Dan's idea doesn't work you may have a break in a wire in the harness running along the steering tube.  The clue there is if turning the bars makes a difference.  Be back in a little while.  I need to look something up and I don't want to time out.  OK, I'm back.  I reread the whole thread.  You have a '93, so no sidestand switch or safety relay.  There is a main relay under the seat.  When you lift the seat it is the little plastic box that does not make noise when you turn your directionals on.  Remove the relay, take a wire, and connect terminal 30 and 87.  All is good, the relay is the problem.  If that doesn't work, post a little about your ability, knowledge and tools so I can give you some more troubleshooting ideas.  Oh, while the bike is running does it ever stall when you turn the handle bars?


Title: Re: ignition switch
Post by: Galway_Girl on May 13, 2008, 09:28:18 AM
Thank you to everyone for all their help, I played around with the issue for a bit on Sunday, but it was Sunday and you know that means riding.  I have to spend some more time during this week, I will look into what Dan and Howie are referring to and give you all an update.  Again many sincere thank you's! Ducrider you will have to tell me about your time in Galway as that is my clan's home, but let's do it in some other thread ;)

GG


Title: Re: ignition switch
Post by: A.duc.H.duc. on May 13, 2008, 09:44:35 AM
Definitely keep us up to date with your issue.
I'd like to see how this one resolves.

Justin


Title: Re: ignition switch
Post by: hiero on May 13, 2008, 01:32:41 PM
the little white connector on the solenoid and the main relay are two fairly common culprits, easy to check though so let us know


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