Red Powder coat color codes?

Started by gmart, December 30, 2008, 04:11:24 PM

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dbran1949

unfortunately the PPG codes are proprietary for Ducati. Sure you can get the code but there is no way to determine how to mix the color

ducpainter

Quote from: dbran1949 on January 05, 2009, 02:47:26 PM
unfortunately the PPG codes are proprietary for Ducati. Sure you can get the code but there is no way to determine how to mix the color
That's not entirely accurate.
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Speeddog

How many different reds are there?

'Cause my '02 S4 is definitely not the same red as my girl's S2R800.

Reminds me of a customer coming in with a Yellow SBK needing some bodywork.
Customer was real particular that the new paint could be done to match.
Painter asked him which panel he wanted the new paint matched to, 'cause all of 'em were different.  [laugh]
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ducpainter

Quote from: Speeddog on January 05, 2009, 07:25:16 PM
How many different reds are there?

'Cause my '02 S4 is definitely not the same red as my girl's S2R800.

Reminds me of a customer coming in with a Yellow SBK needing some bodywork.
Customer was real particular that the new paint could be done to match.
Painter asked him which panel he wanted the new paint matched to, 'cause all of 'em were different.  [laugh]
No two are alike... ;)
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
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Howie

Quote from: Speeddog on January 05, 2009, 07:25:16 PM
How many different reds are there?

'Cause my '02 S4 is definitely not the same red as my girl's S2R800.

Reminds me of a customer coming in with a Yellow SBK needing some bodywork.
Customer was real particular that the new paint could be done to match.
Painter asked him which panel he wanted the new paint matched to, 'cause all of 'em were different.  [laugh]

Dunno, but there are four different shades of VW Passat Sahara Beige Metallic with the same paint code[bang]

dbran1949

Quote from: ducpainter on January 05, 2009, 06:31:19 PM
That's not entirely accurate.

ducpainter
I know you know what you are talking about, everyone here is impressed with your work. Care to elaborate?

BTW, not that I am comparing my skill set to yours, but just so you know I am not completely in the dark about paint. Back in the Navy I would paint bikes for extra cash to supplement my $138 a month income. Of course it was all Lacquer paint back then. Made enough to buy a nice DeVilbiss gun and an air-brush. Had access to the tire shop, even rigged some fittings to adapt a regulator so I could use the compressed nitrogen bottles to paint with (nice and dry)

Big Troubled Bear

Powdercoating colors are a biy of a mistery to me, I have a good PC shop that always gives me the results I need. [thumbsup]

Usually I paint the frames of bikes for the simple reason that I can do it myself and getting the color right is not to difficult.
Reason number 2 is that if the frame starts cracking the paint will show it up sooner and you will be able to do something about it, with powder the frame will have cracked clean of by the time the powder shows the crack :-X
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ducpainter

Quote from: dbran1949 on January 05, 2009, 08:51:28 PM
ducpainter
I know you know what you are talking about, everyone here is impressed with your work. Care to elaborate?

BTW, not that I am comparing my skill set to yours, but just so you know I am not completely in the dark about paint. Back in the Navy I would paint bikes for extra cash to supplement my $138 a month income. Of course it was all Lacquer paint back then. Made enough to buy a nice DeVilbiss gun and an air-brush. Had access to the tire shop, even rigged some fittings to adapt a regulator so I could use the compressed nitrogen bottles to paint with (nice and dry)
PPG makes different paint for different parts of the world. European manufacturers have some different technology and they need to compete in those markets

The code that Ducati provides is for the system used in Europe. They call it "Global" in the US. The system is available here, but not very widely used. That's why when you go into a PBE store that sells PPG they look at you like you have 3 heads when you give them the code.

The other problem is that PPG in all their corporate wisdom never developed formulas for their other systems that are used here so there is no formula available in say Deltron to match the "global" formula.

HTH
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    is even more amazing than yours."
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    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
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