Rake/trail on a 696

Started by Link, May 21, 2011, 10:37:07 AM

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Link

The only spec I can find for the 696 is the rake at 24 deg. but no trail numbers. Does anybody know the rake & trail numbers ?
Thanks

ducpainter

QuoteFrame
Chromium-molybdenum tubular trellis frame, cast aluminium
rear subframe
Steering angle (on each side):
32°
Steering head angle:
22.8°
Trail mm:
87
It's in the owners manual...those numbers are for a 2011 696

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Link

Thanks, I was looking for the trail numbers & it's the same 87mm & rake numbers the manual lists "steering head angle" at 22.8. So that doesn't sound like the rake number unless the triples do not have an off-set. Does anybody know if the 696 triples are off set ?

Raux

Quote from: Link on May 22, 2011, 08:06:11 AM
Thanks, I was looking for the trail numbers & it's the same 87mm & rake numbers the manual lists "steering head angle" at 22.8. So that doesn't sound like the rake number unless the triples do not have an off-set. Does anybody know if the 696 triples are off set ?

for sure they are offset. measure the center of the frame nut to the centerline of the fork centers

Link

Quote from: Raux on May 22, 2011, 11:35:33 AM
for sure they are offset. measure the center of the frame nut to the centerline of the fork centers


I thought of that except trying to get it accurate will be tough. Just so you understand I'm looking for the offset between the top & bottom triple (if there is one) as it's the angle of the forks not the steering head when talking rake & trail. I'm just curious as how the stock rake & trail compare to other sport bikes. If there is no offset on the triple then the 22.8 & 87mm puts it in a pretty good spot as you could change the geometry a fair amount in either direction without pushing the limits of what other bikes are set at.

ducpainter

Quote from: Link on May 22, 2011, 08:06:11 AM
Thanks, I was looking for the trail numbers & it's the same 87mm & rake numbers the manual lists "steering head angle" at 22.8. So that doesn't sound like the rake number unless the triples do not have an off-set. Does anybody know if the 696 triples are off set ?
Those are the numbers published by the manufacturer.

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Raux

Quote from: Link on May 22, 2011, 05:56:34 PM

I thought of that except trying to get it accurate will be tough. Just so you understand I'm looking for the offset between the top & bottom triple (if there is one) as it's the angle of the forks not the steering head when talking rake & trail. I'm just curious as how the stock rake & trail compare to other sport bikes. If there is no offset on the triple then the 22.8 & 87mm puts it in a pretty good spot as you could change the geometry a fair amount in either direction without pushing the limits of what other bikes are set at.

huh? the top adn  bottom triples are the same. they would be bored at an angle if not.

the offset is something like 30mm. I think the superbikes are like 25mm.