696 - Deleting/Removing Charcoal Evap Canister

[metroplex]

What was your cold start complaint?

Also, should I install some type of mesh/filter for the breather tube exit to prevent spiders from laying eggs or debris from clogging that tube?

[Raux]

What was your cold start complaint?

Also, should I install some type of mesh/filter for the breather tube exit to prevent spiders from laying eggs or debris from clogging that tube?

the tube you should keep is the one that has the pinched end.

[Curmudgeon]

My cold start issue has nothing to do with a 696. You have a totally different cold start procedure. Lots of threads on yours.

Suppose you could stick a mini inline fuel filter on the end of that line if you are arachnophobic! 

What was your cold start complaint?

Also, should I install some type of mesh/filter for the breather tube exit to prevent spiders from laying eggs or debris from clogging that tube?

[cyberswine]

Hi Curmudgeon, just checked  the Motowheels site re the left hand shroud.  I see it's clearly labelled "696 and 1100" but may I assume if fit right on your 796.... any problems?
Also interested in any update on your cold start thread, strangely enough it did  start to get cold up here after all but I was lucky enough not to have any issues at all.  Sorry, just sayin 

[Curmudgeon]

Hi Curmudgeon, just checked  the Motowheels site re the left hand shroud.  I see it's clearly labelled "696 and 1100" but may I assume if fit right on your 796.... any problems?
Also interested in any update on your cold start thread, strangely enough it did  start to get cold up here after all but I was lucky enough not to have any issues at all.  Sorry, just sayin  

That shroud is 696/796/1100, so no issues I'm aware of, but the dealer installed it when he removed the evaps while I waited. I'd guess it's a straight bolt-up however.

No updates because I haven't isolated the issue. I'm also a wimp and it got chilly here. Currently it seems that it may fire right up if I fully charge the battery and leave the battery tender connected. Failing that, it appears to fire if I first fail to get it to start and then try it again 10 minutes later. Need a few more cycles to confirm. Already tried other methodologies. Bear in mind that mine is stock, ~ 1,700 miles, and this issue cropped up ~ 500 miles.

DNA wanted my dealer to take a whole series of readings, but as he's 140 miles from me and the bike always starts eventually, I'm not up for leaving it with him. Transportation is too difficult and I have no reason to believe that DNA will give him a quick fix. If it wouldn't start period, then I'd be all over him and he knows it.  

My dealer alleges that no other 796 he's sold does this, so I presume that the battery hasn't enough CCA, the ECU is intermittently wonky, or the Euro 3 tune and cold start protocol is too lean or a combination of the above.

When the bike is kind enough to start, it still only fires at 1200 RPM. "Normal" is 2000 RPM with the stepper motor bringing it down to 1200 quickly. That happens whenever I take it for a ride and fire it up either warm later or within 12 hours or so. If I have it running from a cold start, and then shut it off and restart, it also does the "normal" 2000 to 1200 RPM routine.

I'll update if and when there is an update though.

[metroplex]

I did a Google search for Ducati Cold Start and it seems 1098/1198 owners have similar issues without any conclusive fixes.

Some people recommend opening the throttle a little but that doesn't seem to work for me. My 696 only has issues starting below 50F, so I don't see how it could be fuel, spark, air, or electrical related. If I park my 696 under the sun when it is cold, it starts right up.

What I'm wondering is if this is related to engine oil. I have no clue what the dealer used, but the manual specifies 15W-50 synthetic which is very thick stuff. What are you running?

[thought]

Hi Curmudgeon, just checked  the Motowheels site re the left hand shroud.  I see it's clearly labelled "696 and 1100" but may I assume if fit right on your 796.... any problems?

I fit the shroud on my 796, it's a straight bolt up, no issues at all.  Feel free to order with impunity

[metroplex]

BTW

When the engine is running, I can feel some vacuum from the bottom-most breather tube on the charcoal canister.

[cyberswine]

Thanks guys.  I'll order the shroud when I have the bucks and figure out where to get some impunity