Throttle..... check, Front Brake......ch....

Started by BastrdHK, October 11, 2012, 03:04:02 PM

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BastrdHK

The front brake works

Man, I thought Capirossi's tumbler in GP and Biaggis at Phillip Island was nasty......this is the worst I have seen.
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Slide Panda

Sweet jebus... he almost tagged the rider 2 slots up with the bike-missle.
-Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes.  Good luck.
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IdZer0

I don't understand how that's even possible. How do you generate enough force to lock the front at that speed ?
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He Man

Quote from: IdZer0 on October 12, 2012, 11:11:50 AM
I don't understand how that's even possible. How do you generate enough force to lock the front at that speed ?


what he said! Ive never in my life thought you could generate enough force to flip the bike at speed. you can slip the front  all day and high side or low slide, but thats a straight up endo!

BastrdHK

#4
I think its easily done.....on track.  I have locked the front once on street tires and interstate/concrete.  Luckily, I realized what happened and immediately released, plus I was straight up and down.

With the amount of grip race compounds generate, I think it is totally possible.  We see it all the time in every Road Race series.  Riders lift the rear off the ground under heavy braking.  Maybe this, with his inability or to shift weight backwards caused his body weight to fly forward and compound the problem. 

At the speed he went past, he clearly came in way to hot and panic braked.

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IdZer0

Yeah, but not at that speed. The tendency to lift the rear decreases a lot with speed.

The only reason I can think of is that he was sitting to much to the front.
2007 Monster 695, DP ECU, Low mount Alu Termignonis
replaced by 2011 848 EVO

BastrdHK

Quote from: IdZer0 on October 17, 2012, 08:58:34 AM
Yeah, but not at that speed. The tendency to lift the rear decreases a lot with speed.


I have never personally had any experience, nor do I really want to.  I have definitely seen rear lift in GP and WSBK races at similar speeds however, so I disagree.
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Triple J

Maybe he bumped into someone and the contact pulled his brake lever?

BastrdHK

True, we have no clue what was going on behind.
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