695 Engine Explosion!

Started by Lieutenant Dan, January 20, 2013, 11:57:42 PM

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Lieutenant Dan

Thanks.  You guys are awesome!

In other news, I just tried to bleed the rear brake and I simply cannot get tiny bubbles to stop coming out of the system.  I ran about 5-10 reservoirs completely through the circuit and little tiny bubbles won't stop coming out.  I'm worried I might have a bad seal in there somewhere.  (The system did sit pretty much empty - full of air - for about a year, now.)  In reading the forum, I will give it a rest and try again after a day or two. 

Can anyone with experience either confirm or but my fears to rest?  Thanks!
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Howie

Is your caliper is mounted on the bottom of the rotor?  If so, remove the caliper, turn up side down so bleeder is on top, place a piece of wood or metal about the thickness of your rotor between the pads and bleed.

BK_856er

Bleeder screw points up on the 695 with the caliper mounted.

You might be getting some air in by the threads of the bleeder after each pump.  Sometimes it helps to put a little grease on the bleeder threads to help it seal, crack it only a bit, push down on the bleeder a bit and close the bleeder just before the flow stops.

If things are all frothed up in the system, letting it sit overnight can help the little bubbles become bigger bubbles.

BK

Lieutenant Dan

The day has arrived!   Had to buy a new battery, but I finally got her started again!!

It cranked a few times extra but started about as quick as I would imagine.  I let it idle for a while and then took it around the block.  It ran like garbage!! Maybe not complete garbage, but I have surging issues.  Since I had surging with the last engine as well, I know it's due to some component that remained unchanged.  Yes, I used fresh gas.  My best guess is dirty fuel injectors.  I plan on taking a few steps to try to fix the surging. 

1.  I will use a fuel injector cleaner and give her the ol' Italian tune up (throttle) for a tank of gas or three.
2.  If still unfixed, I will replace the fuel filter.
3.  If still unfixed, I will send the injectors to a shop (AMS?) in Dallas to get cleaned.

I have a few questions regarding the above:

1.  What fuel injector cleaner does anyone recommend and how to use it (if other than what's on the label)?  I have seen people on here talking about Techron??
2.  Anyone know what kind of fuel filter to get or where the best place is to get one?  The manual is very ambiguous about this.

Thanks!!
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ducpainter

How many miles on this bike?

Filter ever been changed?

I'd do that before I ran any weasel piss through the bike.
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SpikeC

 I have used Techron injector cleaner with good results on a few bikes. It can't hurt, so why not try it?
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Lieutenant Dan

Quote from: ducpainter on November 23, 2014, 05:02:43 PM
How many miles on this bike?
17,000

Quote from: ducpainter on November 23, 2014, 05:02:43 PM
Filter ever been changed?
Not that I know of.  Thanks! Now I just need to know its specs and where to get it...?


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Lieutenant Dan

Found this on another post:  http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/FUELFILTER/Maintenance/FUELFILTER.html

looks like its the $30 one for me.  Anyone have experience with this?
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brad black

parts list says 42540101A, which is the grey fiamm filter for which there is no a/m direct source afaik.  you could use the later kl97, which is also plastic.  i'm wary of the kl145 metal filter in a plastic tank, as most of the plastic filters are earthed.  although is that only in metal tanks?  not sure now.  no earth wire shown in the m695 parts listing, filter is just screwed to the main frame of the pump assy.
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Lieutenant Dan

OK, so I just managed to complete the fuel filter change.  To my knowledge, the filter element inside the old filter looks like a happy fuel filter (clean).  Slapped on the new one and fired it up:  same issues.  [thumbsdown]  Backfire (especially when cold) and surging.  I'm going to resort to fuel injector cleaner next (if I can even get it running well enough to ride it) - but I doubt this will fix anything either.  It's looking to me like the culprit is not the fuel system.

I'm looking for ideas as to what could be causing this (backfire and surging just like pre-engine swap existing AFTER a new engine is installed).  Any other ideas?  I'm thinking of starting a new thread to aid in diagnosis.
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Speeddog

Check fuel pressure and check that the TPS is set properly and giving appropriate readings.
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Lieutenant Dan

Good ideas.  Is there  a way to do this without computer equipment in a shop?
'07 695

Speeddog

You can check fuel pressure with a standard pressure gauge, just have to 'tee' into the existing circuit, should be ~45 psi.

TPS readings require some form of diagnostic software, like VDSTS on a laptop, or the dealer electronic diagnostic equipment.
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Lieutenant Dan

As an update, this bike runs well now.  Added a Fat Duc 02 Manipulator and a shop in Dallas put it on a Dyno and was very impressed.  I have since moved to Tucson, AZ and am being stationed overseas.  The bike is now for sale - see the classifieds section of this forum.  -Dan
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