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ducatiz

#165
August 24, 2008, 12:13:09 PM Last Edit: August 24, 2008, 12:21:56 PM by ducatizzzz
Quote from: kopfjager on August 24, 2008, 12:04:23 PM
Only people in Movieland shoot guns from the hip.

The DoJ and the Treasury are fool of Tools.

[roll]

Settle down now, Clarence. 

Here is a DoD document for US infantry.  You better call some folks up and give 'em a lesson.
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071-010-0006 (SL1) - Engage Targets with an M249 Machine Gun
Standards: Applied correct M249 machine gun target engagement techniques and hit each target in your assigned sector of fire.
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>snip<
d.  Hip.  Use the hip firing position when closing with the enemy, when a heavy volume of fire in the target area is required, and when rapid movement is not necessary (figure 071-010-0006-5).

Figure 071-010-0006-5. Hip firing position



And here is a grunt at a range.  I wonder if he is in Movieland?




Oh,lookie here.. a .mil website says
QuoteM16A2 Rifle is a lightweight, air-cooled, gas-operated, magazine-fed, shoulder- or hip-fired weapon designed for either automatic fire (3-round bursts) or semi-automatic fire through the use of a selector lever.

Or is that the Movieland US military telling grunts to hip-fire the M16 and the M249?

or maybe they are fools of tools too?
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Kopfjäger

#166
August 24, 2008, 12:31:05 PM Last Edit: August 24, 2008, 12:44:41 PM by kopfjager
Exactly. Whoever had anything to do with that video is a Tool. Most likley it was an Officer.  [roll]

I teach for a living, I know what the make the beast with two backs I'm talking about.

Oh, and it was Francis.
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ducatiz

#167
August 24, 2008, 12:47:02 PM
Quote from: kopfjager on August 24, 2008, 12:31:05 PM
Exactly. Whoever had anything to do with that video is a Tool. Most likley it was an Officer.  [roll]

I teach for a living, I know what the make the beast with two backs I'm talking about.

Oh, and it was Francis.

Forget the video -- who knows from where it came.

What about the training document?  You just want to pretend that doesn't exist?

You haven't made it to Francis yet.  You're still just a Clarence.  Be lucking you're not a Bertram.

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Kopfjäger

#168
August 24, 2008, 01:16:53 PM
Only a zero or a wet behind the ears boot would pay attention to that manual.  [roll]
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silentbob

#169
August 24, 2008, 01:22:20 PM
Quote from: kopfjager on August 24, 2008, 01:16:53 PM
Only a zero or a wet behind the ears boot would pay attention to that manual.  [roll]

Drop that zero and get with the hero.


ducatiz

#170
August 24, 2008, 02:32:53 PM
Quote from: kopfjager on August 24, 2008, 01:16:53 PM
Only a zero or a wet behind the ears boot would pay attention to that manual.  [roll]


mmm kay [roll]
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rgramjet

#171
August 28, 2008, 02:23:20 PM
So.   

I got the top folder and mounted it yesterday.....not so great.  Cant imagine getting my cheek anywhere near that hard piece of plastic and pulling the trigger while trying to aim the rifle sights........I know its a shotgun but I might shoot a slug out of it...

I think the rear pistol grip is in order, will be mounted momentarily.

Next question os how to remove the sweat-on front and rear sight mounts?
Quote from: ducpainter on May 20, 2010, 02:11:47 PM
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rgramjet

#172
October 21, 2008, 08:03:02 AM
Took the FN shooting for the first time this weekend.  Form and practice is everything my friends. 

First shot was 2-3/4" 00 Buckshot.  Held the sg too low, too far back and not tight enough, sucker about broke my wrist!  That thing is no joke!  I then went through a box of low brass #8 to work on form. With each shot I learned something. 

I had 2, 3" 00 Buck shells that have been rolling around the bottom of my range box.....Curiousity took over and in the great words of a Dirty Harry foe, I said to myself, "I gots to know!" 

First shot of 3" I could feel the bone in my forearm wanting to break free of the muscle, very strange sensation.  Second shot, I flexed the forearm muscle and it went much better.....not comfortable, but better.

Any suggestions for low recoil home defense rounds?

Disclaimer:  I have extensive experience with stocked,  sporting shotguns.  This little beast is a totally different animal.  The recoil is much more abrupt than my .44 revolver.  Think it might be a function of how vertical the pistol grip mounts and the hotness of the loads I was using.
Quote from: ducpainter on May 20, 2010, 02:11:47 PM
You're obviously a crack smokin' redneck carpenter. :-*

in 1st and 2nd it was like this; ringy-ting-ting-ting slow boring ho-hum .......oh!........OMG! What the fu.........HOLY SHIT !!--ARGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
-Sofadriver

What has been smelled, cannot be unsmelled!

ducatiz

#173
October 21, 2008, 09:12:58 PM
Federal Power-Shoks.

Low recoil double-ought in 2.75 and 3 in shells.

PG shotguns are a different animal, but you should pick it up.  a good buttpad is essential, but iam surprised you found it so energetic..
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rgramjet

#174
October 22, 2008, 05:37:30 AM
lol
I got no stock, just the pistol grip!  That sucker BARKS! 

I am looking forward to experimenting with different loads and settling on one.  The destructive power of Buckshot is impressive.  I was shooting gallon jugs filled with water.
Quote from: ducpainter on May 20, 2010, 02:11:47 PM
You're obviously a crack smokin' redneck carpenter. :-*

in 1st and 2nd it was like this; ringy-ting-ting-ting slow boring ho-hum .......oh!........OMG! What the fu.........HOLY SHIT !!--ARGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
-Sofadriver

What has been smelled, cannot be unsmelled!

Spicoli

#175
October 22, 2008, 07:32:06 AM
Quote from: rgramjet on October 22, 2008, 05:37:30 AM
lol
I got no stock, just the pistol grip!  That sucker BARKS! 

I am looking forward to experimenting with different loads and settling on one.  The destructive power of Buckshot is impressive.  I was shooting gallon jugs filled with water.

I have an Rem870 with hogue pistol and forehand grip.  Great home defense and blow shite up gun.  First time I shot a 3" magnum slug out of it, it made me feel sorry.  stick to 2-3/4 to keep your hands happy.  The 3" buckshot (15pellet 00) was more powerful, but I was ready for it after shooting the slug. 

Life's too short to be taken seriously.
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ducatiz

#176
October 22, 2008, 04:53:26 PM
Quote from: rgramjet on October 22, 2008, 05:37:30 AM
lol
I got no stock, just the pistol grip!  That sucker BARKS! 

I am looking forward to experimenting with different loads and settling on one.  The destructive power of Buckshot is impressive.  I was shooting gallon jugs filled with water.

oh, gotcha.. missed that part. 

i am not a fan of PG only shotguns, but they do the job.  if you use a 12 or 14" barrel, it's actually easier to fire (in terms of recoil) since the muzzler is closer and thus, there is a shorter rise angle (i.e. less torque), but more noise.  for a pg shotgun, short barrel is the way to go, legally of course -- is that an option by you?
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rgramjet

#177
October 22, 2008, 06:55:02 PM
Its an option but also a 3 month headache.  Im currently shopping supressors for my .308s.  Maybe Ill get a SBS at the same time and save a trip. 

The FN is cool, its got an 18" barrel thats as long as the magazine.  Holds 8 which I like.  There is an available screw in compensator that replaces the knurled screw in choke.  I know I know, "a compensator for a shotgun??".
Quote from: ducpainter on May 20, 2010, 02:11:47 PM
You're obviously a crack smokin' redneck carpenter. :-*

in 1st and 2nd it was like this; ringy-ting-ting-ting slow boring ho-hum .......oh!........OMG! What the fu.........HOLY SHIT !!--ARGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
-Sofadriver

What has been smelled, cannot be unsmelled!

ducatiz

#178
October 22, 2008, 07:33:57 PM
Quote from: rgramjet on October 22, 2008, 06:55:02 PM
Its an option but also a 3 month headache.  Im currently shopping supressors for my .308s.  Maybe Ill get a SBS at the same time and save a trip. 

The FN is cool, its got an 18" barrel thats as long as the magazine.  Holds 8 which I like.  There is an available screw in compensator that replaces the knurled screw in choke.  I know I know, "a compensator for a shotgun??".

comps on shotguns are great for rapid fire.  on a pump, not so necessary, but on a semi or full auto, very useful!

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