Unemployment

[sbrguy]

  You are in the private sector and contribute to the GDP as are those other occupations you mentioned.    Dolph

the problem with this part of the thread is that dolph is basing his argument on one core thesis, that  goverment in general should not exist and that everything should be privatized to contribute to GDP, because of the simple assumption that the "free market" and "capitalism" will always be better than any government intervention assuming that people make rational decisions and assuming "textbook" free market conditions and supply and demand again based on rational decisions.

as we are seeing now in the world, you can not "assume" that people will make "rational" decisions (even so called "smart people" in the private sector do not make rational decisions) even in a "free market" because in general people are not rational and are greedy.  Thus the "textbook" free market and capitalism models will never apply even if you were to take out government intervention and control completely.

so to constantly try to argue that the "utopian" capitalism model is the right way, is not really correct bc its just as unrealistic as asking for a perpetual motion machine, meaning it only happens in movies and fairy tales and hypothetical classroom arguments.

[Statler]

let's turn this ship.

[ducpainter]

let's turn this ship.

It would be far simpler to scuttle it.

[cyrus buelton]

I agree this thread took a wrong turn.


It has run its course.