Used car salesman RANT!!!

[Grampa]

What about obvious lease return CPO's? Like BMW? I can't imagine they are in the same class of "used" that you are talking about...or are they?

a CPO is about the only way I would be talked into a used car off a dealer. When I worked at BMW...we had a few used CPO's on the lot with less than 20k on the clock. The factory extended the 3 years 50k warranty to 6 years 100k on all CPOs back then....so you could get a great deal on a car that had to meet the factorys  version of  whats good  (which is waaaaaay better than the dealers standar), and you got an even better warranty out of it. All at a discounted price.

Lease returns can be beat to hell just like any other car, and not all of them will make CPO standards (this is assuming the factory still has high standards)

keep in mind..... it's  been years since I  was in the car mix, and standards on CPOs may have changed as the economy has changed. When lm and I were looking for a car for her in 07, Saturns CPO cars were poo and the warranty extension was a joke.

[Grampa]

never finance a used car.

never walk into onto a car lot (new) without being preapproved for a known amount from your bank, with papers in hand. ( do not play the monthly payment game with them)

never fall in love with a specific car.

test drive a car w/o a salesman in it. leave yer kids with the guy if you have to..... that way you can drive the shit out of it.

ask to see the service history of any used car..... if a dealers says it has none, he's a lying sack of shit.

the only kind of used car you should ever buy off a corner used car lot..... is one you paid cash for and one you can fix yourself.

[stateprez]

Lease returns can be beat to hell just like any other car, and not all of them will make CPO standards (this is assuming the factory still has high standards)

My old man always leases high-end sedans because in his dealer's words, "If you wreck it, you're not stuck with the depreciation."

Take from that what you will, but I wouldn't expect all dealer's certification standards to be at the same level. 

[the_Journeyman]

No curb is too high for a rental or a lease ~

JM

[Howie]

You can test drive a car with the salesman aboard.  Ask my wife about our Honda test drive through Central Park with the salesman in the back seat

[Grampa]

You can test drive a car with the salesman aboard.  Ask my wife about our Honda test drive through Central Park with the salesman in the back seat

When I sold BMW's, I had a blast taking customers out and showing them just what the DTC button does   

I drove the cars harder than the customers would 

[JEFF_H]

I thought the stuff in red was actually in the ad, and wondered what you were complaining about since they were being so straightforward about the stuff

[Rameses]

I thought the stuff in red was actually in the ad, and wondered what you were complaining about since they were being so straightforward about the stuff

So did I.   


My first thought was "wow, that dealer has a pretty good sense of humor!"

[Vindingo]

I have read close to 10,000 used car and truck ads now and they drive me insaine!!!!!!!

mileage: 276,345 mostly freeway miles

really?  the car is 5 years old what the Fck else would you drive on that much?  200,000 offroad miles?  150,000 city street miles... F&CK I hate people. Traffic around here sucks, even if you are on a freeway during rush hour it is stop and go.  Is that better than stopping at a light on a city street? 

I wish I would have known about the premium that trucks seem to fetch out here before I sold my old one. 

What are some good websites beside CL, autotrader and vehix?   

[Grampa]

I have read close to 10,000 used car and truck ads now and they drive me insaine!!!!!!!

mileage: 276,345 mostly freeway miles

really?  the car is 5 years old what the Fck else would you drive on that much?  200,000 offroad miles?  150,000 city street miles... F&CK I hate people. Traffic around here sucks, even if you are on a freeway during rush hour it is stop and go.  Is that better than stopping at a light on a city street? 

I wish I would have known about the premium that trucks seem to fetch out here before I sold my old one. 

What are some good websites beside CL, autotrader and vehix?   

I'll sell ya mine   

[sno_duc]

When I sold BMW's, I had a blast taking customers out and showing them just what the DTC button does   

I dove the cars harder than the customers would 

Wannna bet  , right before we pulled the trigger on the wifes 08 335 xi coupe, I took an 07 lease return Z4 for a test. Let's just say that both the CA and I had $hit eatting grins on when we got back 45 minutes or so later. She gave me that " fess up " look, I shrugged and said 'you don't want to know'. 

[redxblack]

This reminds me of the part from the Grapes of Wrath where the Okies were trading their mules and cows for cars. Things haven't changed that much since the 1930s as far as used car "reconditioning".