Throttle off-to-on transition in corners....

Started by johnster, May 25, 2008, 11:01:07 PM

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Quote from: Ducatista on May 31, 2008, 02:48:36 PM
Your chain is only loosely connected to your motor.  It is the slop in that connection that creates the feeling of a tug just at throttle opening.  It's felt more when you have a really kinked chain.

Ah, gotcha.  Thanks for the response.
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Quote from: Ducatista on May 31, 2008, 08:29:10 AM
What I said holds true for the track and the street.  If you're still downshifting while already turned in, you're really going to unsettle the suspension.  The really nice thing about having a twin is that ok, you may lug a bit if you get around 2k rpm, but you don't lose all power.  Just stay on the throttle. 

Thats why I love this forum you learn bits about all kinds of stuff.  Thanks for the inputs.  like the contact patch stuff that awesome.  BTW I was talking about slipping the clutch an dnot changing gears just using it to allow a change in the rpm.  its a hold over from riding 2 stroke dirtbikes most likely where I had a ton of RPM but not a bunch of torque

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Quote from: 55Spy on May 31, 2008, 05:16:32 PM
Thats why I love this forum you learn bits about all kinds of stuff.  Thanks for the inputs.  like the contact patch stuff that awesome.  BTW I was talking about slipping the clutch an dnot changing gears just using it to allow a change in the rpm.  its a hold over from riding 2 stroke dirtbikes most likely where I had a ton of RPM but not a bunch of torque

Ahhhh... welcome to twins!  Decent torque, even when you're lugging along!  Don't worry about feathering the clutch to keep your rev's up, even if you're a gear too high.  If you're going into a 15 mph turn in 6th, that's another problem entirely.  But if you're one or even two gears too high, just stay on the throttle and she'll pull through just fine.   [moto]
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Quote from: Ducatista on May 31, 2008, 09:17:06 PM
Ahhhh... welcome to twins!  Decent torque, even when you're lugging along!  Don't worry about feathering the clutch to keep your rev's up, even if you're a gear too high.  If you're going into a 15 mph turn in 6th, that's another problem entirely.  But if you're one or even two gears too high, just stay on the throttle and she'll pull through just fine.   [moto]

I still hold all my old 2 stroke habits on my 4 stroke offroad bike too, they are just hard habits to break!  being over in japan now and riding 2 stroke street machines has just continued to reinforce them  :-\ 

I love geting home to the states and riding the duc just don't do it enough and haven't found the right M400 over here to buy.  Not being able to keep a bike in a garage (space is a premium here)  and knowing that it will just rust has been another reason to delay the duc purchase in theland of the rising sun.

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Lugging any V twin into a corner is way better than a last minute downshift, and drivetrain lash is exponentially exagerated in a bike without the proper suspension setup