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Started by ducatiz, November 03, 2009, 07:51:19 AM

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Howie

#15
November 05, 2009, 03:42:43 AM
Quote from: herm (not herb) on November 05, 2009, 03:06:24 AM
Smokey has been advertising the false belief that humans can stop wildfires from happening since his conception.


Ah, now I see.

Thanks

junior varsity

#16
November 05, 2009, 04:04:59 AM
The real problem started with "Teddy" Roosevelt, and the toy maker that campaigned a cuddly stuffed bear. If that toy was never made, more children would fear and respect bears than today. And less would be eaten by ferocious bears.

angler

#18
November 05, 2009, 04:40:37 AM
Quote from: howie on November 04, 2009, 06:45:10 PM
Though I do believe you, could you explain?

He is single handedly responsible for the crazy high fuel loads in ALL western forests.  Most western semi-arid forests (Rocky Mountains) evolved with a 2- 15 year fire frequency.  At that frequency, fires were not catastrophic, but cleansing events that improved the productivity of forests and kept bugs in check.  The US started an aggressive policy of putting out every fire with Smokey as the spokesbear.  Combine that with heavy logging and heavy grazing and now most of our western forests are overgrown tinderboxes that when they burn, burn everything down to the mineral soil.  Not so good for productivity or erosion or carbon sequestration.  

You can blame the huge beetle kills in CO and most of the Rockies on the lack of fire and milder winters.  The US now has a let it burn policy for wilderness and national parks - sort of.  The USFS is now directing millions and millions of dollars (thanks Obamabucks!) into fuel reduction projects all over the West.
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herm

#19
November 05, 2009, 06:00:35 AM
^what he said^

you a forestry tech by any chance dangler?
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angler

#20
November 05, 2009, 06:21:58 AM
Quote from: herm (not herb) on November 05, 2009, 06:00:35 AM
^what he said^

you a forestry tech by any chance dangler?

My first degree was in forestry from Northern AZ University.  NAU does a lot of the fire research in the West.  Thanks to the spotted owl, Northern and Mexican gosshawk, it was impossible to find a forestry job in the West when I graduated.  I worked forestry all over the Southeast US after I graduated and got tired of picking ticks off my nuts and constantly having poison ivy problems, so I went back to grad school.
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ducatiz

#21
November 05, 2009, 06:26:11 AM
it's all true, but what are you gonna do besides rant about it on a website while sitting in your skidmarked BVDs?
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Kopfjäger

#22
November 05, 2009, 06:40:02 AM
Quote from: herm (not herb) on November 05, 2009, 03:06:24 AM
Smokey has been advertising the false belief that humans can stop wildfires from happening since his conception.


I believe he say's something about "prevent". Not "stop", after the fact.
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#23
November 05, 2009, 07:33:05 AM
But without Smokey, we wouldn't have his slogan to be parodied by this awesome shirt.

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angler

#24
November 05, 2009, 10:32:48 AM
Quote from: ducatiz on November 05, 2009, 06:26:11 AM
it's all true, but what are you gonna do besides rant about it on a website while sitting in your skidmarked BVDs?


Are you talking to me?  I don't plan to do anything about it unless somebody pays me......
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herm

#25
November 05, 2009, 11:28:16 AM
Quote from: kopfjäger on November 05, 2009, 06:40:02 AM
I believe he say's something about "prevent". Not "stop", after the fact.

believe what you like.
it is pretty much accepted that Smokey has caused more harm than good in our forests.
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ducatiz

#26
November 05, 2009, 05:54:20 PM
Quote from: dangler on November 05, 2009, 10:32:48 AM

Are you talking to me?  I don't plan to do anything about it unless somebody pays me......


just ranting while in my skidmarked BVDs
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DoubleEagle

#27
November 05, 2009, 06:42:36 PM
Quote from: El Matador on November 04, 2009, 04:21:25 AM
Quit bogarting that joint man!
Now you're talking J.

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#28
November 06, 2009, 12:16:17 AM Last Edit: November 06, 2009, 12:18:33 AM by D
Quote from: bobspapa on November 04, 2009, 04:10:55 AM
In England Smokey the Bear is not the forest fire prevention representative. They have Smacky the Frog. It's just like a bear, but it's a frog. I think it's a better system, I think we should adopt it. Because bears can be mean, but frogs are always cool. Never has there been a frog hopping toward me, and I thought 'man, I'd better play dead. Here comes that frog...' You never say here comes that frog in a nervous manner. It's always optimistic. Hey here comes that frog, al-right. Maybe he'll come near me so I can pet him, and stick him in a mayonnaise jar, with a stick and a leaf, to recreate what he's used to. And I'm pretty sure I'd have to punch some holes in the lid, because he's damn sure used to air. Then I can observe him, and he won't be doing much in his 16 ounce world.




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