Why are duc exhausts so darn expensive... ugh...

Started by ryandalling, April 22, 2010, 08:22:39 AM

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hcomp

I guess I need to do a dissertation on manufacturing...

There are two major differences between the Ducati Exhaust we make vs. the car exhast we also make.  Our Hcomp exhaust is much more difficult to make than are car exhaust. Fortunately I have the current experience of manufacturing both.  What seems like a couple of bends and welds is a lot more involved than cutting some tubes and welding them. Our midpipe takes a full day to complete one.  The big issue we have is the fact we are hand coping and jigging across a seam weld on our midpipe, in other words we have to merge and cope three welded pipes and be less than .1" tolerance. To explain this you must see the midpipe up close. Not only that, it takes three hours to hand brush and finish each midpipe, that alone is an additional process you do not have to do on a car exhaust.

Silencers:
Yes we have them in all of our exhaust...Boom tubes have them too!

I hate to break the myth, but carbon fiber is pretty inexpensive.  To make a carbon fiber tube requires less than 1 sq yard of fabric.  On the consumer market the price is $50.00 per sq yard. We purchase carbon sheet at $35.00 per yard. Larrger companies buy for even less.  The Rodan box cost me about the same in materials.  Factor in the fact that all of our pieces are laser cut and CNC bent. That is not cheap by the way.  Also what seems like a few pieces is much more, the Rodan box is made from 9 different pieces that must be jigged and welded together and packed.  A carbon silencer is much less work.  They are comprised of a stamped piece of metal tail cap, a carbon tube, perf tube, and front piece.  Pretty easy to assemble as well.  Our twin tube is also all hand made along with the silencers that fit within them.

Until you have actually been involved in manufacturing it is easy to throw around cost when you are on the outside.

Our sister business manufactures this stainless system out of schedule 40.  It takes 1 day to complete this exhaust manifold and retails for $1095.


This exhaust takes 2 full days and retails for: $950

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Statler

nonsense all of it!  clearly you're making millions and ripping us sad little folk off.

[laugh]
It's still buy a flounder a drink month

Veloce-Fino

Quote from: Statler on April 26, 2010, 04:46:13 AM
nonsense all of it!  clearly you're making millions and ripping us sad little folk off.

[laugh]

Ryan, I'm not trying to belittle your operation or anything. We know you make a profit and if any of the manufacturers deserve a profit it's you guys. I still think that the slip-on kits are overpriced. Being that yours is a full exhaust swap it definitely has greater value. I'll probably be buying the h-competition exhaust shortly. I'm between that and the Arrow CF slip-on.
Is this thing on?

hcomp

Quote from: Statler on April 26, 2010, 04:46:13 AM
nonsense all of it!  clearly you're making millions and ripping us sad little folk off.

[laugh]

I'm just glad I haven't been to a meet up and show up driving my 8 year old Toyota Tundra, everyone would be extremely envious. I have to keep a low profile and ride my cheappy 696
8)
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Veloce-Fino

Quote from: ryanracer on April 26, 2010, 08:56:06 PM
I'm just glad I haven't been to a meet up and show up driving my 8 year old Toyota Tundra, everyone would be extremely envious. I have to keep a low profile and ride my cheappy 696
8)

Toyota Tundra, I knew it, your a millionaire.

Any news on the next version of your exhaust Ryan? You mentioned a new version with different baffling coming out in the next 2 weeks or so. I am waiting with extreme impatience for pictures or video of this updated system.

/hijack
Is this thing on?

lazylightnin717

I would rather pay good money for a well made product than spend a little just to have something. If I wanted to do that, I would have bought something other than Ducati.

A lot of good stuff comes out of Italy. Art, women, wine, food, architecture, cars, bikes, women, etc. and it ain't cheap.

But it's good.

And I am sure that these other "little guys" aren't littering the market with crap.

Comes a time
When the blind man takes your hand
Says don't you see
Gotta' make it somehow
On the dreams you still believe