Merits of fool proof design (sss hub / wheel design)

[Popeye the Sailor]

why not offset a pin?

kinda like on a flywheel

Because then it would be too easy to do it right.

[KRJ]

   I believe no matter how "foolproof" or "safe" the industry makes the assembly or operation of a machine, some people will never get it!    What seems like a totally simple operation to some is very confusing to others, If You don't understand simple mechanics, which Motorcycles are, than You pay Your tuition to learn like everything else. Attention to detail, focus, and patiance are standard fare. If You can't "get it", take the machine to a competant mechanic. Don,t create a "Shervin time bomb" please!!!      As said "If You understand, the World is the way that It is, if You don't understand, the World is the way that It is"    some people never understand...

[Bladecutter]

Uggh,

There are 3 pages now that are a spin off from another thread complaining about having to line up the holes in the back of the wheels with the posts on the hub? Must have been a slow day for the lot of you.

I don't know how many of you own different bikes, and have to take care of other people's bikes, but in my garage are 5 bikes. 2 are SSS bikes, two are DSS bikes, and one is a shaft drive DSS bike. Then I have all my other friend's bikes to work on when they come by, which also includes belt drives, and everything listed above.

So, some of you have complained about the slots that are cut out between the stud holes in the SSS wheels?
Called it bad design, and think that the designer and engineer and bean counter involved in the design should be tarred, feather, pistol whipped, texas chili bowled, and executed because they put slots between peg holes?

Ummn...

How hard is it to locate the hole with your finger tip, and keep it aligned until you slide the wheel back onto the hub?

Its not.

Just because someone was (please pick one) too inexperienced/too rushed/too drunk/too distracted/too lazy/too stupid to locate the hole with their finger tip, and align the wheel properly, causing damage to the bike, you think its a design flaw?

I've been working on motorcycles for about 23 years now.
Its NOT a design flaw.
Its a design.

Some of you have faulty sense's of superiority and entitlement.
You might want to get those adjusted before life smacks you hard again, sometime in the near future.

BC.

[ducpainter]

Uggh,

There are 3 pages now that are a spin off from another thread complaining about having to line up the holes in the back of the wheels with the posts on the hub? Must have been a slow day for the lot of you.

I don't know how many of you own different bikes, and have to take care of other people's bikes, but in my garage are 5 bikes. 2 are SSS bikes, two are DSS bikes, and one is a shaft drive DSS bike. Then I have all my other friend's bikes to work on when they come by, which also includes belt drives, and everything listed above.

So, some of you have complained about the slots that are cut out between the stud holes in the SSS wheels?
Called it bad design, and think that the designer and engineer and bean counter involved in the design should be tarred, feather, pistol whipped, texas chili bowled, and executed because they put slots between peg holes?

Ummn...

How hard is it to locate the hole with your finger tip, and keep it aligned until you slide the wheel back onto the hub?

Its not.

Just because someone was (please pick one) too inexperienced/too rushed/too drunk/too distracted/too lazy/too stupid to locate the hole with their finger tip, and align the wheel properly, causing damage to the bike, you think its a design flaw?

I've been working on motorcycles for about 23 years now.
Its NOT a design flaw.
Its a design.

Some of you have faulty sense's of superiority and entitlement.
You might want to get those adjusted before life smacks you hard again, sometime in the near future.

BC.

Sheesh...

Someone wake up on the wrong side of the bed?

Where does the whole schtick about entitlement come from?

Maybe you need a nap.

It is a design.

It could be better design.

We all have an opinion.

[Popeye the Sailor]

Uggh,

There are 3 pages now that are a spin off from another thread complaining about having to line up the holes in the back of the wheels with the posts on the hub? Must have been a slow day for the lot of you.

I don't know how many of you own different bikes, and have to take care of other people's bikes, but in my garage are 5 bikes. 2 are SSS bikes, two are DSS bikes, and one is a shaft drive DSS bike. Then I have all my other friend's bikes to work on when they come by, which also includes belt drives, and everything listed above.

So, some of you have complained about the slots that are cut out between the stud holes in the SSS wheels?
Called it bad design, and think that the designer and engineer and bean counter involved in the design should be tarred, feather, pistol whipped, texas chili bowled, and executed because they put slots between peg holes?

Ummn...

How hard is it to locate the hole with your finger tip, and keep it aligned until you slide the wheel back onto the hub?

Its not.

Just because someone was (please pick one) too inexperienced/too rushed/too drunk/too distracted/too lazy/too stupid to locate the hole with their finger tip, and align the wheel properly, causing damage to the bike, you think its a design flaw?

I've been working on motorcycles for about 23 years now.
Its NOT a design flaw.
Its a design.

Some of you have faulty sense's of superiority and entitlement.
You might want to get those adjusted before life smacks you hard again, sometime in the near future.

BC.

About as useful as pregnant doging about the location of the air temp sensor, no?

It's NOT a design flaw.
It's a design.

Yes, I'm one of the one's who has pregnant doged on here about the stupid location for the air temperature sensor on the 696 and the Monster 1100. I was also asking if anyone else could ride their bike and confirm if their temp reading was way out of kilter, but no one ever did respond to that request.

The location of the air temp sensor is in fact ridiculous since they are using it to determine the air temp reading that the users would look at to see what the air temp is. If it was solely for the computer use, then shouldn't it be in the air box, where it can't get heated up by the engine temperature?

Yes, I agree that they should either remove that air temp feature, or have a proper sensor for that information source, like they have on every other model of bike they have sold in the past.

I'm half tempted to buy one of those sensors, and place it in a different location, and see what results I get.
Typically, the sensor on other Ducati's is located under the upper triple.

BC.

[Popeye the Sailor]

You might benefit from reading this:

http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=10430.0

Not all knowledge is common.

Though I try not to call people retarded for not knowing something I do, unless they ask for it.

[DarkStaR]

You might benefit from reading this:

http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=10430.0

Not all knowledge is common.

Though I try not to call people retarded for not knowing something I do, unless they ask for it.

, I forgot about that thread, and me posting in it.

P.S. I hate all of you.   

[GAAN]

Uggh...

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BC.

Both bikes that I have seen

first hand

damaged because of this mistake

were worked on by factory techs

maybe you can give a seminar about their entitlement

and

fuel it with your superiority

[mitt]

Uggh,

e of you have faulty sense's of superiority and entitlement.
You might want to get those adjusted before life smacks you hard again, sometime in the near future.

BC.

Can you walk on water too?


mitt

[CairnsDuc]

First time I had my rear tire changed at the local Ducati dealer, that weekend I took the wheel off to change my rear brake pads
to something better (And a complete brake bleed) I noticed that the pegs were in the slots and not the holes.
I did the work I needed to do and I was going to put the wheel back how I found it, but I noticed the pegs matched the holes, so
I lined it back up with the 4 holes instead. seemed logical to me.

But there is a classic case of someone who should have known better (A Ducati Dealer) and even they managed to screw it up!

Mind you, this is the same mechanic who when reinstalling a rear wheel back on a 916 left out the spacer/shim between the
wheel and the securing nut! 
3 days later the wheel fell off, thankfully the owner felt it was going and managed to get to the side of the road and save his bike
from falling over, just in time to watch his rear wheel roll on down the road past him.

New wheel, new hub and Pins, new rear brake disc and caliper, and to this day I will never understand, the owner thought it was funny!
he came in with a smile on his face! (I was working at the dealer at this stage) He had a laugh, left it with us while I scoured the country
for the parts to get the bike repaired as fast as we could. 2 weeks later he came back, picked up his pride and joy and again rode away
with a smile on his face. He even suggested we not fire the Mechanic who made the mistake! (But the mechanic was already gone by this
stage, he had sunk a customers jet ski a week earlier, so this was the final straw)

Sorry bit off topic there. 

[Christian]

Your story further supports my theory that the dude who messed up the wheel was a monkey, and shouldn't be fixing anything.