Failed left fork damper at 10,900 miles on M695 (Marzocchi fork)

Started by jsanford, July 14, 2011, 10:40:50 PM

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jsanford

Found out during my forks' first (and admittedly overdue, by the calendar anyway) servicing that the damper in the left fork has a valve stuck open.  [thumbsdown] 

Ordered an (expensive) replacement damper unit but I'm curious if others have experienced this problem with the stock  Marzocchi forks.  Or perhaps, like me, they assumed a fork performance issue was characteristic of a cost-saving design and put in an aftermarket upgrades instead of considering that there may be a mechanical problem.   [bang]

And for the record, I've never pulled off a stoppie in my life.  [Dolph]
'08 695 - Seattle

suzyj

You are aware 695 (and 696) Marzocchi's aren't like normal forks.  Mine had no compression in one leg and no rebound in the other - really quite silly.


2007 Monster 695 with a few mods.
2013 Piaggio Typhoon 50 2 stroke speed demon.

the_Journeyman

Speed Triples have the same setup too, one side is rebound, other side is compression.

JM
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bikepilot

A lot of high end forks do this - its a means of isolating the compression and rebound circuits. The newest to jump on the wagon that I know if is the ohlins setup on the new 675R.
2009 XB12XT
2006 Monster 620 (wife's)
1997 TL1000S
1975 Kawasaki H1 Mach III
2001 CR250R (CO do-it-all bike)
2000 XR650R (dez racer)
2003 KX100 (wife's)
1994 DR250SE (wife's/my city commuter)

battlecry

I upgraded my forks to AK-20s and Right is rebound, Left is compression.

OP, do you have any damping, or one-way damping on that left fork?

DarkStaR


jsanford

Crap---really? No, I wasn't aware. Thanks for enlightening me!

I'll call up the Ducati dealer tomorrow.  They did mention there were separate part numbers for right and left.  Hopefully I can still cancel my order.

'08 695 - Seattle

jsanford

Quote from: battlecry on July 15, 2011, 09:05:13 AM
I upgraded my forks to AK-20s and Right is rebound, Left is compression.

OP, do you have any damping, or one-way damping on that left fork?

No damping in the left.  The right felt more "normal."

I'm not doubting the repliers--I've had enough quirks with my Monster and my Guzzi to know not to trust that the documentation covers all the details--but the parts fiches lists just one damping unit in the exploded view of the forks and says two are required. Two people I spoke to at the two local dealerships say no, both legs should have dampers.  One said that it could just be stuck.

I may call a local suspension specialist (both dealers recommended this) or Marzocchi directly.  Took the Monster out for its first twisty ride with the new Bitubo springs, and they sure make a big diferrence, broken- or WAD-left fork and all.
'08 695 - Seattle

DarkStaR

I've taken multiple forks off of 05 monsters that are just like that.

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=6916.0

bikepilot

I don't know how this specific fork is supposed to be - I've never worked on a 695, I just know that it wouldn't be unusual.  If you strip the forks it should be pretty obvious from how its built and what the shim stack looks like whether there's supposed to be damping and it shouldn't be too complicated to figure out why there isn't damping if its supposed to have some/more.
2009 XB12XT
2006 Monster 620 (wife's)
1997 TL1000S
1975 Kawasaki H1 Mach III
2001 CR250R (CO do-it-all bike)
2000 XR650R (dez racer)
2003 KX100 (wife's)
1994 DR250SE (wife's/my city commuter)

jsanford

'08 695 - Seattle