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Started by Howley, February 11, 2012, 04:15:31 AM

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#15
February 14, 2012, 04:15:24 AM
Quote from: Howley on February 13, 2012, 09:55:18 PM
Update. I tried it out with my car battery and it was exactly the same. Time to pull the starter motor by the looks of it. It's a pin in the ass because I need to do the stator coil too, but I can't bloody find one.

Stators:

http://www.ricksmotorsportelectrics.com/

http://www.electrexworld.co.uk/
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ducpainter

#16
February 14, 2012, 04:20:53 AM
He'd have to send his stator to Rick's for rebuilding.

Bike would be down quite a while.
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Howley

#17
February 15, 2012, 01:00:18 AM
Yeah, Especially from Australia. I thought they'd come up second hand a bit more often than they do.

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#18
February 15, 2012, 07:33:07 AM
Quote from: Howley on February 15, 2012, 01:00:18 AM
Yeah, Especially from Australia. I thought they'd come up second hand a bit more often than they do.

That throws a small stone in the game then. Electrex sells new units so there's no need to swap cores...

http://www.electrexworld.co.uk/cgi-bin/sh000001.pl?REFPAGE=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2eelectrexworld%2eco%2euk%2facatalog%2fOnline_Catalogue_Stator_Kits_424%2ehtml&WD=ducati&PN=G93%2ehtml%23aG93#aG93
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Howley

#19
February 16, 2012, 05:05:33 AM
Well I finally got around to pulling the starter motor. Took the first bolt out of the back at smoke came out. Pulled the back and the inside was BLACK! Not your regular fried black, oil black. I could literally pour oil out of it. Looks like the seal has gone, it also explains where my oil is going.

Would you guys say that with good clean and a rebuild kit (new bearings, orings, brushes, bushings etc) it'll all be fine?

Another plus, I checked the stator and it tested ok too. Looks like there is another reason why my battery isn't charging.

Speeddog

#20
February 16, 2012, 07:42:30 AM
Not sure of the availability of the rebuild parts, but one would think a starter/electric motor rebuild place would have or could get it.

I'd say give it a go.
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#21
February 16, 2012, 01:29:52 PM Last Edit: February 16, 2012, 01:35:31 PM by ducpainter
Rebuild parts...http://www.stockers.com/index.php?dt=RBK-69

It's listed for '00-'02, but I'm not aware of any differences in the starters. I might be wrong so you might want to do more research.

They also have parts listed for Denso starters that might fit the bill...http://www.stockers.com/index.php?br=Denso+Repair+Parts

...as well as an aftermarket starter...http://www.stockers.com/index.php?br=Ducati+Motorcycle
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


Howley

#22
February 17, 2012, 05:31:38 PM
Ordered a new starter from stockers. I figured by the time I paid for degreaser and factored in my time I'd be better off.

ducpainter

#23
February 17, 2012, 06:20:40 PM
Quote from: Howley on February 17, 2012, 05:31:38 PM
Ordered a new starter from stockers. I figured by the time I paid for degreaser and factored in my time I'd be better off.
IMHO...wise choice.

Hope it works out long run.... [thumbsup]
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 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


Howley

#24
March 12, 2012, 11:27:39 PM
Bit of an update. The starter from stockers arrived, ands its actually a genuine Denso unit not an aftermarket replacement. Put it in today and after not running for over a month I thought I'd just tooouuuch the starter for a fraction of a second to see if it turns. Turned so well that it started! Hooray!

bigiain

#25
March 13, 2012, 01:02:50 AM
Quote from: Howley on February 16, 2012, 05:05:33 AM
Well I finally got around to pulling the starter motor. Took the first bolt out of the back at smoke came out. Pulled the back and the inside was BLACK! Not your regular fried black, oil black. I could literally pour oil out of it. Looks like the seal has gone, it also explains where my oil is going.=

Weird - the same thing happened to MMicks ST4 while Joe (DesmoQuattro) was in town...

If you were just gonna throw out the old starter bits, wanna throw them this way?

big

Howley

#26
March 13, 2012, 08:34:57 PM
Hey big I'm going to hang onto the bits that aren't shagged for spares.
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