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Quote from: darylbowden on August 29, 2008, 04:36:48 PM
ruh-roh
http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=33920
not that big of a ruh-roh, though, since final qualy is tomorrow.
i suppose if they really wasn't to do some damage they coulda waited until final qualy to tear 'em down.
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Both riders will have the opportunity to participate and post lap times during the Saturday morning qualifying session, then have their bikes torn down and the crankshafts deemed non-homologated and thus illegal.
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Quote from: darylbowden on August 29, 2008, 04:36:48 PM
ruh-roh
http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=33920
Is this the polytics board?
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haha!
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Quote from: derby on August 29, 2008, 04:41:21 PM
not that big of a ruh-roh, though, since final qualy is tomorrow.
i suppose if they really wasn't to do some damage they coulda waited until final qualy to tear 'em down.
I was asking Derby offline - I wonder if DMG will let Yosh borrow some of the myriad "legal" crankshafts they have in stock for tomorrow's qualy and race? Or are they all gonna have to borrow Ben's spares?
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<anonymous engine builder looking at RRW pictures in pit area at RA>
"OHhhhh.....F me...... my cranks look just like that, and I took 'em out of a Suzuki box."
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August 29, 2008, 05:43:07 PM »
My conspiracy theory is that DMG is working very hard to discredit AMA superbike in order to gain credence for their new series...
Jes sayin'
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http://superbikeplanet.com/2008/Aug/080830b17.htm
...following Mladin's disqualification it is said that Spies' crewchief, veteran wrench and tactician Tom Houseworth, had the crankshaft from a GSX-R1000 streetbike motor pulled from its bearings and installed in Spies' Atlanta motor, insuring that it would be legal.
doesn't seem to have slowed him down at all:
Combined Qualifying Results:
1. Ben Spies (Suz GSX-R1000), Dunlop, 1:23.421
2. Mat Mladin (Suz GSX-R1000), Dunlop, 1:23.801
3. Tommy Hayden (Suz GSX-R1000), Dunlop, 1:24.404
4. Jason DiSalvo (Yam YZF-R1), Dunlop, 1:24.462
5. Eric Bostrom (Yam YZF-R1), Dunlop, 1:24.562
6. Jamie Hacking (Kaw ZX-10R), Dunlop, 1:24.701
7. Aaron Yates (Suz GSX-R1000), Dunlop, 1:24.911
8. Roger Hayden (Kaw ZX-10R), Dunlop, 1:25.392
9. Miguel Duhamel (Hon CBR1000RR), Dunlop, 1:25.652
10. Neil Hodgson (Hon CBR1000RR), Dunlop, 1:25.671
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Re: Yosh Suzukis in the dog house *again*.....
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Goes to show that the illegal crank is slower than the legal one.
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Quote from: derby on August 30, 2008, 08:20:59 AM
http://superbikeplanet.com/2008/Aug/080830b17.htm
...following Mladin's disqualification it is said that Spies' crewchief, veteran wrench and tactician Tom Houseworth, had the crankshaft from a GSX-R1000 streetbike motor pulled from its bearings and installed in Spies' Atlanta motor, insuring that it would be legal.
doesn't seem to have slowed him down at all:
Combined Qualifying Results:
1. Ben Spies (Suz GSX-R1000), Dunlop, 1:23.421
2. Mat Mladin (Suz GSX-R1000), Dunlop, 1:23.801
3. Tommy Hayden (Suz GSX-R1000), Dunlop, 1:24.404
4. Jason DiSalvo (Yam YZF-R1), Dunlop, 1:24.462
5. Eric Bostrom (Yam YZF-R1), Dunlop, 1:24.562
6. Jamie Hacking (Kaw ZX-10R), Dunlop, 1:24.701
7. Aaron Yates (Suz GSX-R1000), Dunlop, 1:24.911
8. Roger Hayden (Kaw ZX-10R), Dunlop, 1:25.392
9. Miguel Duhamel (Hon CBR1000RR), Dunlop, 1:25.652
10. Neil Hodgson (Hon CBR1000RR), Dunlop, 1:25.671
Just curious as to what was wrong with the legal crankshaft that came out.
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Quote from: ducpainter on August 30, 2008, 08:48:11 AM
Just curious as to what was wrong with the legal crankshaft that came out.
...wrong color.
i'm not much of a conspiracy theorist, but ask me and this is nothing but edmondson being pissed off at mel harris for being the chief guy to threaten his multi-million dollar investment in AMA racing.
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Quote from: gm2 on August 30, 2008, 09:33:21 AM
...wrong color.
i'm not much of a conspiracy theorist, but ask me and this is nothing but edmondson being pissed off at mel harris for being the chief guy to threaten his multi-million dollar investment in AMA racing.
That was actually sarcastic....
and I agree.
Kinda stupid to put that kind of money up and not play nice with the major players in the sport.
This retribution won't warm the hearts of the factories.
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Quote from: gm2 on August 30, 2008, 09:33:21 AM
...wrong color.
i'm not much of a conspiracy theorist, but ask me and this is nothing but edmondson being pissed off at mel harris for being the chief guy to threaten his multi-million dollar investment in AMA racing.
FTR, certain treatments can change the color of the crank (similar to hayes, but not as obvious) and would explain why they needed time to see if it was simply a supplier variance or if something more dastardly was going down.
I happen to be one of the few who believes that this isn't DMG trying to retaliate. I know Jim Rashid (well, kinda) and that dude is 1) honest as anyone in the business (moreso than Yosh, I can guarantee you that) and 2) a VERY smart and talented mechanic.
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AMA speaks:
http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=33935
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Quote from: darylbowden on August 30, 2008, 10:26:17 AM
I happen to be one of the few who believes that this isn't DMG trying to retaliate. I know Jim Rashid (well, kinda) and that dude is 1) honest as anyone in the business (moreso than Yosh, I can guarantee you that) and 2) a VERY smart and talented mechanic.
...but he also allegedly has had a dislike for factory teams.
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