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« on: September 27, 2008, 06:17:00 AM »
...hello, 600gp!

http://superbikeplanet.com/2008/Sep/080927d.htm
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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2008, 07:58:29 AM »
No info on engine restrictions other than 4 stroke, 4 cylinder, 600cc.

Seems like that's going to be rather expensive...

We've discussed it before, but what's a no-limits 600 engine going to put down? 150HP?

And 125's are at, what, 50HP?

That's quite a jump...
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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2008, 08:10:58 AM »
Quote from: Speeddog on September 27, 2008, 07:58:29 AM
No info on engine restrictions other than 4 stroke, 4 cylinder, 600cc.

i don't think that's the case..
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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2008, 08:18:02 AM »
I forgot what the rumor/fact was on engines.

Production based?
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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2008, 09:06:50 AM »
Quote from: Speeddog on September 27, 2008, 08:18:02 AM
I forgot what the rumor/fact was on engines.

Production based?

the rumor/theory has always been production based w/ zero or nearly zero engine mods.  which is really weird for a 'prototype' series, but whatever..

either way i'm pretty sure it won't be a go-crazy class.  they'd end up being too close to the 800s.  and too expensive.
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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2008, 09:23:33 AM »
Quote from: gm2 on September 27, 2008, 09:06:50 AM
the rumor/theory has always been production based w/ zero or nearly zero engine mods.  which is really weird for a 'prototype' series, but whatever..

either way i'm pretty sure it won't be a go-crazy class.  they'd end up being too close to the 800s.  and too expensive.

MotoGP goes back to 990's in 3... 2... 1... ? (yes please btw)
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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2008, 09:24:15 AM »
don't hold your breath.
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« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2008, 09:42:02 AM »
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either way i'm pretty sure it won't be a go-crazy class.  they'd end up being too close to the 800s.  and too expensive

I agree there.  A full prototype 600 class will be very close to what the 800 guys are running.  I'd imagine they'll keep the engines toned down.
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« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2008, 09:48:54 AM »
Quote from: JesterDFW on September 27, 2008, 09:42:02 AM
I agree there.  A full prototype 600 class will be very close to what the 800 guys are running.  I'd imagine they'll keep the engines toned down.

the original statement some time ago was basically showroom engines w/ zero mods, unlimited chassis and suspension, electronics
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« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2008, 09:50:19 AM »
What a shame. If they spent the money this switch would take on cleaning up the 2 strokes instead...

I'd have preferred the 450 single super lights myself but that wouldn't have made Honda happy so...

ghey
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« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2008, 10:00:33 AM »
So it's going to be World Supersport #2?
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« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2008, 10:30:35 AM »
what will be interesting is the cc's given to twins.
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« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2008, 11:05:11 AM »
Quote from: Raux on September 27, 2008, 10:30:35 AM
what will be interesting is the cc's given to twins.

they've already been given.

"4-stroke, 4-cylinder maximum, 600cc maximum engines."

you wanna run a 600cc single, twin, triple.. go for it.
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« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2008, 11:11:35 AM »
Quote from: EvilSteve on September 27, 2008, 09:50:19 AM
What a shame. If they spent the money this switch would take on cleaning up the 2 strokes instead...

I'd have preferred the 450 single super lights myself but that wouldn't have made Honda happy so...

ghey


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« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2008, 05:04:34 PM »
Quote from: gm2 on September 27, 2008, 11:05:11 AM
they've already been given.

"4-stroke, 4-cylinder maximum, 600cc maximum engines."

you wanna run a 600cc single, twin, triple.. go for it.

It's pretty clever how they managed to disenfranchise every manufacturer in the world except the Jap big 4 with one sentence isn't it?
Now if only our government could write legislation that concise. bang head
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