Neutral between 5th and 6th???

Started by stopintime, May 09, 2008, 05:39:17 PM

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hypurone

Quote from: stopintime on May 09, 2008, 06:00:55 PM
I'm certainly aware of it now - clutch is ready 8)
Is this issue Ducati style or is it also common on, let's say Japs? (not that you guys would know first hand, but have you heard of it?)

False neutrals on very bike I have ever ridden (Jap, Italian, German, British you name it) at some time or another. It is better when the gear dog is "backcut" but then the shift isn't very positive feeling. Most of the newer bikes are using straightcut dogs. Much easier to find neutral in between.  :P
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Smitty

02 S4 Here. Just a little stiff when new some false neutrals at about 4,000 miles only 5 to 6th false neutral on occasion. After 5800 miles the  shifts are smooth with little effort and constantly geeting better .


Tim

PizzaMonster

I guess I just do everything with a bit of extra brute force. ;D  Can't remember false neutral ever being an issue on my bike.   (also  an '07 S2R800)  And I hope it never becomes an issue 1/2 way through a turn either!

But  there is a teeny little area on the shifter between 1st and 2nd where the neutral light doesn't come on and the bike is already in neutral. 

I was going to mention it to the dealer if I ever take it in for service  ;D  .  In the meantime I just remember it's there. [moto]
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stopintime

Quote from: PizzaMonster on May 11, 2008, 01:38:17 PM
But  there is a teeny little area on the shifter between 1st and 2nd where the neutral light doesn't come on and the bike is already in neutral. 

On mine too - will have dealer checking all of this next time I'm in - in two weeks.
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echelon

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Quote from: PizzaMonster on May 11, 2008, 01:38:17 PM
But  there is a teeny little area on the shifter between 1st and 2nd where the neutral light doesn't come on and the bike is already in neutral. 

I was going to mention it to the dealer if I ever take it in for service  ;D  .  In the meantime I just remember it's there. [moto]

Both of my Monsters acted the same.   I sometimes want to get to neutral and I find it but the neutral light on the dash does not illuminate.  In other words I am in neutral but no light.  Its like I entered neutral without triggering the light sensor. No biggy because I am used to it (and the false neutral stuff).  I simply shift up and down again and the light comes on.

718frankb

Why is it that the only time i miss a shift is when theres a crowd of people staring at me?
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bigiain

Quote from: 718frankb on May 15, 2008, 06:26:42 PM
Why is it that the only time i miss a shift is when theres a crowd of people staring at me?

Probably cause you're too busy checking out their titslooking at them to pay attention to shifting properly...

;)

big (not that _I'd_ know anything about that mistake...)

techno

It happens on my S2R800 also but only between 5th and 6th so its never mid corner.

Before I bought the monster I rode a friends 600SS, '97 model. I had trouble finding neutral after stopping at the lights or wherever if the bike was running. Not a problem if you found it rolling up to the lights or the bike is switched off, just while it was idling sitting still. Funny about that.

At least I can easily find neutral on the monster where its supposed to be.
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toaster

my 04 800 has the same thing from 5th to 6th.  it feels like there is a click-click thing happening. 

its actually a design thing that ducati did on purpose to let you know you were shifting into 6th, that way you would never try and shift again looking for that nonexistent next gear.

johnster

When you see the green "N" illuminated, you know what that means, right??

-It means the bulb's not burnt out!!   ;D

-I remember my MSF instructor telling us that....NEVER trust the Neutral light, he said.....

I always just let the clutch out a hair and see if I hear the idle drop....if so, I'm not in neutral.... [thumbsup]
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stopintime

Quote from: toaster on May 16, 2008, 01:03:51 PM
its actually a design thing that ducati did on purpose to let you know you were shifting into 6th, that way you would never try and shift again looking for that nonexistent next gear.

Really? Where did you get that information and do you know for sure it's not what some dealer told you to get out of "trouble"? I'm not doubting you, it's just a little hard to think that Ducati would be that customer friendly ???
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ScottRNelson

Quote from: toaster on May 16, 2008, 01:03:51 PM
its actually a design thing that ducati did on purpose to let you know you were shifting into 6th, that way you would never try and shift again looking for that nonexistent next gear.
I also question where you got that from.

If you try to shift to "7th" gear, it feels different, but it doesn't hurt anything at all if you do it.  That's the only sure way to know you're in 6th if you haven't kept count and don't recognize it by feel.

I also do the same thing down from first sometimes, just to make sure.
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toaster

Quote from: stopintime on May 16, 2008, 01:19:45 PM
Really? Where did you get that information and do you know for sure it's not what some dealer told you to get out of "trouble"? I'm not doubting you, it's just a little hard to think that Ducati would be that customer friendly ???

Quote from: ScottRNelson on May 16, 2008, 01:35:35 PM
I also question where you got that from.

If you try to shift to "7th" gear, it feels different, but it doesn't hurt anything at all if you do it.  That's the only sure way to know you're in 6th if you haven't kept count and don't recognize it by feel.

I also do the same thing down from first sometimes, just to make sure.

it was actually a joke guys.  i am  100% sure ducati didnt do it on purpose.

stopintime

Quote from: toaster on May 17, 2008, 09:39:28 AM
it was actually a joke guys.  i am  100% sure ducati didnt do it on purpose.

[laugh] Me too [thumbsup]
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