2001: SpaceOd is the worst "best" movie EVER

[eltristo]

I do.  They're some of the best literature on the planet. 

If you can read "Notes from the Underground" or "Anna Karenina" and tell me you didn't like them, you're crazy.

Hey, I've got a degree in literature and studied Russian, so I'm not unfamiliar.  I was being silly.  Or perhaps stupid. It's hard to tell sometimes.   

[factorPlayer]

So DMF, enlighten me. What am I missing?

umm quite a bit actually.  It is worlds apart from the standard frenetic hollywood fare that spoon-feeds plot and action to a passive viewer.  You are probably confused because it is a type of movie that basically doesn't exist anymore.

Yes it is filled with long, slow shots that take their damn sweet time getting done and the first line of dialogue is 40+minutes into the film.  It's not meant to be objective entertainment.  It demands something of the viewer and that is probably what leaves you with that wtf? feeling. 

The non-linear, self-interpretive nature of the movie is its genius.  The depictions of spacecraft and orbiting bodies are spot-on and the head trip part is stunning.  Personally my favorite scene is where Dave has to re-enter the ship without a helmet by blowing himself into the airlock.  It's one of the most tense and brilliantly-conceived scenes in all of cinema.

[eyeboy]

^^^^^ totally.

what a great trip oit is to allow yourself to be bobbed along like a cork through this crazy film. i have seen it about 12 times, and every time it is a different experience (and that's without the 'e'  )

makes modern sci-fi look like dreck. total genius, not for everyone.

but totally for me. but then again, i worked on 'naked lunch' 

[eltristo]

but totally for me. but then again, i worked on 'naked lunch' 

And you lived to tell the tale?

As Nelson Muntz said, "I can think of at least two things wrong with that title."

[Super T.I.B]

Starship Troopers is way better.

[eltristo]

Starship Troopers is way better.

[Speeddog]

From what I remember from seeing the movie quite a while ago, this sums it up pretty well:
http://www.kubrick2001.com/

[eltristo]

From what I remember from seeing the movie quite a while ago, this sums it up pretty well:
http://www.kubrick2001.com/

An interesting and well presented analysis.  I certainly don't agree with all of it, but is was reasonably comprehensive and logical.

[BWClark]

From what I remember from seeing the movie quite a while ago, this sums it up pretty well:
http://www.kubrick2001.com/

Yeah, I thought that was pretty good as well. I'm sure everyone puts their own person spin on it (as with all art), but that's not bad.


Had to change my profile pic!

[Big Troubled Bear]

It  was and still is a brilliant movie

[eyeboy]

And you lived to tell the tale?

As Nelson Muntz said, "I can think of at least two things wrong with that title."

and i lived to tell the tale. strangely it was the first film i worked on and probably the only one that was worth the trouble.

of course none of it made sense until we dropped acid and watched it in a theater

[Speedbag]

Naked Lunch actually freaked me out for about a week....

[supafly]

Nooooo ... sacrilege.  first off, its kubrik ... best director ever.  second, the concept of guided evolution
was inspired (by arthur clarke).  third, it was the first best depiction of space travel as we know it (apart
from the whole cosmic way-station thing).

Oh ... and the 'diamonds' are still breathtaking 30 years later.

What part of the space travel? The empty PanAm flight? The 30 minutes of walking to establish their weightlessness?

umm quite a bit actually.  It is worlds apart from the standard frenetic hollywood fare that spoon-feeds plot and action to a passive viewer.  You are probably confused because it is a type of movie that basically doesn't exist anymore.

Yes it is filled with long, slow shots that take their damn sweet time getting done and the first line of dialogue is 40+minutes into the film.  It's not meant to be objective entertainment.  It demands something of the viewer and that is probably what leaves you with that wtf? feeling. 

The non-linear, self-interpretive nature of the movie is its genius.  The depictions of spacecraft and orbiting bodies are spot-on and the head trip part is stunning.  Personally my favorite scene is where Dave has to re-enter the ship without a helmet by blowing himself into the airlock.  It's one of the most tense and brilliantly-conceived scenes in all of cinema.

I'm not confused, just disapointed. I heard so many great things about this film, the masterpiece from the master Kubrick, the best SciFi film ever, and what I got was not that good. The special effect still hold up, the apes look great, the ships look great, weighlessness is well done, but...

Really, the airlock scene? Back the egg up, push a button, get inside, and push the other button...?

Maybe I'm too young (32) I'm sure in 68 this movie blew make the beast with two backsing minds, but in 08 its just kinda annoying.

[eyeboy]

well, my girlfriend is 38 and she finds it waaaaay too slow as well.

me? i love it, but i grew up on films without lightning fast editing. to me a lot of what passes for movies these days is 2 hour music-video garbage. i hate it.

but try showing an old steve mcqueen film to a twenty-year-old... they'll be asleep in 5 minutes, all people want now is a 3 second sound bite whether its news or films. no-one has the patience to 'let a story develop' because we all just want to get to the next 'event'.

it's a bit like comparing US football vs. soccer.

and nobody reads anymore either. who cares? dunno. i think its a bit sad but unavoidable, a sign of 'progress'

i don't have time to read a newspaper every day, so i read it on the web, is that wrong? nope. not to me.

[supafly]

well, my girlfriend is 38 and she finds it waaaaay too slow as well.

me? i love it, but i grew up on films without lightning fast editing. to me a lot of what passes for movies these days is 2 hour music-video garbage. i hate it.

but try showing an old steve mcqueen film to a twenty-year-old... they'll be asleep in 5 minutes, all people want now is a 3 second sound bite whether its news or films. no-one has the patience to 'let a story develop' because we all just want to get to the next 'event'.

it's a bit like comparing US football vs. soccer.

and nobody reads anymore either. who cares? dunno. i think its a bit sad but unavoidable, a sign of 'progress'

i don't have time to read a newspaper every day, so i read it on the web, is that wrong? nope. not to me.

My 29 year old wife almost ripped out my eyes 15 minutes into 2001

I'll agree with you about "Bullitt" (the only McQueen movie I know well), a 20 year old would die of boredom waiting for the chase scene.

I like UK football. Go figure.

you should start practicing [old man voice] "Get off my lawn!!!"