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jesse370
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« on: November 02, 2008, 12:22:31 PM »

I just received a Hyperpro CSC damper for my S4Rs to replace my failed Ducati Performance Damper

HyperPro
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140mm stroke
Color: Mad Red
Mounting Kit: MK-DU04-S003









Install:
The instructions are worlds better then the DP instructions (a poorly photocopied piece of paper)
The actual install went pretty quickly once I got the the throw to the left and right figured out. For clearance I did have to back out a small amout of steering lock to the left to get everything setup properly.

Part Itself:
Solid part and it feels like a high quality unit. 2 year warranty FULLY rebuildable. The adjuster has a very heavy detent so you know when you are changing things on the road with gloves on.

First Ride Impressions:
I still don't have it dialed in where I need it to be, BUT I can say this. I have a ton of adjustment still and the bike is solid again, I missed that while I was waiting for my damper issues to be resolved. The DP unit had to have the setting much higher on the resistance to get the bike like this. So it feels good to know that I already have MUCH more room for adjustment on the damper itself. Your hand can fall to it and adjust it on the fly, and with gloves on you can clearly feel the heavy detent with gloves on and you know HOW many clicks you went through.

I'm really impressed with the quality of this part, it has the same warranty as the DP unit I DID have, but it was almost 80 dollars less and is rebuildable.
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« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2008, 04:00:52 PM »

I have heard of the potential problem of a damper being too hard in certain situations - avoiding traffic for example.
HyperPro offer a "active" damper, which they say will be softer in slow speeds. Do you know anything about this - it sounds like a good idea?
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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2008, 04:42:37 PM »

Nice looking damper but it looks like it's a bit out of level. It's at an odd angle, not aligned with anything else.  Maybe if you flipped the frame mount 180 deg. That may raise the back end of if up level with the front.


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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2008, 05:08:16 PM »

Mike, the fork mount has a heim joint and you can't I don't think rotate it up that far. It does move in a super smooth and linear manner.

As for the damper being too stiff to avoid traffic, don't forget that in your hands it may seem very hard to move but with handle bars attached it has a bunch of leverage. The damper has eliminated the monster wobble and I can still increase the damping alot, BUT with that being said it's no where near the point where it would ever stop you from getting out of the way of something. The nice thing with the CSC style damper is that it has a constant rate that it will work, where with the active setup it works more at higher inputs.

I haven't used a active style but i like the linear style alot.
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« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2008, 05:37:36 PM »

Nice looking damper but it looks like it's a bit out of level. It's at an odd angle, not aligned with anything else.  Maybe if you flipped the frame mount 180 deg. That may raise the back end of if up level with the front.


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Isn't the point that it is at 90 degrees with the fork?


........................ The nice thing with the CSC style damper is that it has a constant rate that it will work, where with the active setup it works more at higher inputs.

I haven't used a active style but i like the linear style alot.

Did I read the HyperPro information right (?) that there are two different types - you got the nonactive and there is another one that is active (meaning more damping at high input).
I'm just trying to understand how they differ and I'm wondering why you didn't choose the active - it does sound like a "smarter" product?

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« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2008, 07:13:52 PM »

Did I read the HyperPro information right (?) that there are two different types - you got the nonactive and there is another one that is active (meaning more damping at high input).
I'm just trying to understand how they differ and I'm wondering why you didn't choose the active - it does sound like a "smarter" product?

Yeah they make two different styles. The one I got is a constant linear amount of damping. I got this one for a few reasons. !. I like having the same amount of damping at any speed or amount of input, I always know what to expect from it. 2. price the active is more expensive.
 
The other style they call the RSC (reactive safety control) with that one the damping increases in a progressive manner in relation to the inputs. That and upon further review it looks like the REACTIVE style is still in the smaller stroke versions. But I have never felt the need to have a active steering damper I have it set high enough to tame the monster wiggle, yet it isn't obtrusive and you never know its there unless you look down at it.
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« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2008, 09:08:07 PM »

Thanks, I have a better understanding of the two systems, now that you explained waytogo

You see, at HyperPro USA they list both systems at the same price. That's part of the reason for my confusion.

BTW: they seemed very reasonably/competitively priced until I saw the price of the mounting kit Shocked
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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2008, 12:33:23 PM »

I paid I think 540 for mine WITH the mounting kit.
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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2008, 12:35:39 PM »

Keep in mind that side dampers don't hold up well in crashes. I even saw a frame damaged once.
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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2008, 03:09:21 PM »

I'm sure that is the case, but most of the other options available for the newer monsters are kinda limited, and I was hardly thrilled with the lifespan of my last DP steering damper.
The frustrating thing is Scott's makes a rotary style for the Hyper, and it would require two parts to be re-machined, the mounting point around the ignition is slightly different and that would be all it would take to adapt it to work. BUUUUUUT thats not going to happen.
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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2008, 04:15:11 PM »

I previously had a Hyperpro CSC 140mm side mount on my bike. I ended up swapping it for an RSC and mounted it underneath the lower triple.

A few things. I used the Motowheels under triple mount to fit it to my older style monster.

Hyperpro only makes the RSC's in 75mm stroke and has zero plans to make it in the other sizes. They used to, but ran into problems hence only the 75mm's now.

I set it as light as I can and forget about it and it works great.
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