make the beast with two backstard bosses

[erkishhorde]

Please don't let me be the only one with a make the beast with two backstard for a boss. I dunno how some people stand it.

Not only is he a horrible scheduler but he keeps giving us new guys projects that we shouldn't be working on alone and then doesn't help us when we ask for it.  On top of that he doesn't give us nearly enough time (1 week to design and create all drawings and details for 2 small masonry buildings + 1 masonry gym). Then when you don't make enough progress on a job he yells at you (no offices, just cubies so everyone knows you're gettin' it) and says things like "I'm gonna kill you if don't have this done by tomorrow" or "I'm gonna rip your head off if you forget this again."

To top it all off he's got these big bug eyes and shitty english and when he gets pissed his english deteriorates very quickly and he starts slobbering a little and when he widens his already big bug eyes it makes me just wanna punch him in the face. Oh, did I forget to mention that he talks down to EVERYONE? Contractors, architects, engineers, doesn't matter. He's always got this tone in his voice that says "I know everything and you know shit, so do what I say." I hear him on the phone all thet ime w/ contractors telling them how to do their job. Like once with a soils engineer he didn't like the allowable bearing pressure we were given so he told the soils engineer to raise it. Plain out. He just says to the guy, "Shouldn't the bearing pressure be 3000psi here? I think it should be 3000psi, 2000psi is just too low."

Oh god, I don't know how much longer I can put up with this jerk off. I keep telling myself that a different boss would be better. I've only been here 3 months and I've already seen 1 guy leave because he couldn't stand it anymore after about 1.5 years. I'm already counting the days until 1 year so that I can scoot once the economy is better.

I know deadlines will always be closer than you want them. I know it's not your bosses job to baby you and be your friend but he doesn't have to be a total jackass about it. I should stop carrying my knife lest I lose it one of these days. 

[Statler]

my boss is a make the beast with two backstard too.

[KnightofNi]

i have 3 bosses.

all of them are varying levels of make the beast with two backstard.

the most make the beast with two backstarded one just got promoted to senior manager over the one that has been a mgr longest and has actually done the job of the employees he oversees.

and our director has quite the ego on him. he has spread that to the mgrs to cover their incompetence.

the mgr are so well protected here it's scary. gotta love big business!

[Vindingo]

Please don't let me be the only one with a make the beast with two backstard for a boss. I dunno how some people stand it.

Not only is he a horrible scheduler but he keeps giving us new guys projects that we shouldn't be working on alone and then doesn't help us when we ask for it.  On top of that he doesn't give us nearly enough time (1 week to design and create all drawings and details for 2 small masonry buildings + 1 masonry gym). Then when you don't make enough progress on a job he yells at you (no offices, just cubies so everyone knows you're gettin' it) and says things like "I'm gonna kill you if don't have this done by tomorrow" or "I'm gonna rip your head off if you forget this again."

To top it all off he's got these big bug eyes and shitty english and when he gets pissed his english deteriorates very quickly and he starts slobbering a little and when he widens his already big bug eyes it makes me just wanna punch him in the face... I should stop carrying my knife lest I lose it one of these days. 

Does he really say things like "I'm going to kill you" or "I'm going to rip your head off" in a serious way?  Can you take him in a fight?  It would be funny if one day while he was yelling at you that he was going to rip your head off, you just stood up and said "BRING IT pregnant dog!"  I bet it would shock the shit out of him, and just to be safe, let him hit you first    (obviously I'm joking... a little)

I have had dick bosses, but none have really threatend with the whole physical violence thing.  Are you in the armed services?  I just didn't think people in offices did that shit.   

[ducpainter]

my boss is a make the beast with two backstard too.

[zarn02]

“oh, you hate your job? why didn't you say so? there's a support group for that. It's called everybody, and they meet at the bar.”

i hear you on the jackass boss thing. the overlords at my hagwon (private english school) apparently studied under the soviet model, and do their very best to allow for zero independent thought and action on the part of the teachers.

[erkishhorde]

Does he really say things like "I'm going to kill you" or "I'm going to rip your head off" in a serious way?  Can you take him in a fight?  It would be funny if one day while he was yelling at you that he was going to rip your head off, you just stood up and said "BRING IT pregnant dog!"  I bet it would shock the shit out of him, and just to be safe, let him hit you first    (obviously I'm joking... a little)

I have had dick bosses, but none have really threatend with the whole physical violence thing.  Are you in the armed services?  I just didn't think people in offices did that shit.   

I do structural engineering.  When he says things like I'm going to kill you he has a very serious and threatening tone in his voice. I know he just means that he's gonna yell at me but it's still not right to say that kinda shit. I was thinking along the same lines as you though. The next time he says that I'm gonna tell him better be serious about actually killing me or ripping my head off or I'm gonna kill him first. I know it's a quick route to unemployment but I'll get a kick out of it.

[optiato]

“oh, you hate your job? why didn't you say so? there's a support group for that. It's called everybody, and they meet at the bar.”

i hear you on the jackass boss thing. the overlords at my hagwon (private english school) apparently studied under the soviet model, and do their very best to allow for zero independent thought and action on the part of the teachers.

I prefer my kegerator at home...Then I can shoot people in the head in CoD.

[toaster]

I do structural engineering.  When he says things like I'm going to kill you he has a very serious and threatening tone in his voice. I know he just means that he's gonna yell at me but it's still not right to say that kinda shit. I was thinking along the same lines as you though. The next time he says that I'm gonna tell him better be serious about actually killing me or ripping my head off or I'm gonna kill him first. I know it's a quick route to unemployment but I'll get a kick out of it.

next time he starts yelling at you like that, calmly pull your concealed weapon out of wherever you keep it on your body and set it on the table next to your computer.  THEN tell him you really dont like hearing his shit all the time and ask if he wants to come through with his "threat" to kill you or rip your head off.

if you dont have a concealed weapon and license to do so, now would be the perfect time/excuse to get one.

[Autostrada Pilot]

Couldn't HR put a stop to his threats of physical violence?  He's making your office a "hostile environment".  If your company is big enough to have an HR person, I'd probably give them a call.

[River]

Couldn't HR put a stop to his threats of physical violence?  He's making your office a "hostile environment".  If your company is big enough to have an HR person, I'd probably give them a call.

+1

There is no excuse for that kind of behavior and unless you do something to stop him legally (the HR route) he'll keep doing it to other people.  You might not snap, but someone else might.  Get HR to fire him or at least put a muzzle on him.  If he does anything to you in reprisal that's an offense for which he can be fired. 

Work is hard.  That's why it's called "work" and not "fun."  Dealing with people is difficult too.  BUT there is no reason to put up with that kind of crap.

[herm]

all bosses/supervisors are numbnut make the beast with two backstards in the eyes of at least some of their employees. its a fact of life.
they feel the same way about you.

that said, i think you have an extreme situation on your hands.

[lauramonster]

Although the violence vs. violence scenarios would be cool, you would get in a lot of trouble.  

Record the verbal abuse.  Tell him in a very low voice that's there's no need to be abusive, and when he is willing to discuss the issues in a calm manner you'd be happy to talk to him.  If the abuse continues, say excuse me while I take this to the HR Department.  

It's not your fight.  His communication skills are terrible, and that reflects on his management.  The company is blind to not realize that his ineffectiveness translates to their high cost of business (whether that translates into structural failure, re-doing plans, and if other professionals don't want to deal with him - how can the pertinent information pass from them to your company???  He's a liability to the comapny.

Good luck.  

[Popeye the Sailor]

I don't deal well with people raising their voices to me.


You can correct me. Don't yell at me. I will walk-right then and there.


I heard SGH in SF is hiring, if you really want out.

[Oldfisti]

+1 on documenting the abuse before that trip to HR. Written log for times and frequency. Audio is real nice for concrete proof of the abuse and the exact tone of it. Not as satisfying as violence but more effective from your end. (or you could take a sharpened #2 pencil, jab it in his side and snap off the remainder   )