Ducati Stradaperta 1200 DS

Started by giordy, December 16, 2008, 04:50:01 PM

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Quote from: sally101 on December 17, 2008, 07:43:56 AM
No such thing.. (yet)...

People in the know have leaked that the Aperta will be liquid cooled. That chop is an 1100 Monster frame+engine underneath.

Streetfighter is trellis. 1198 is still trellis.
I said "full trellis", front to back Monster style is what I was referring to. Streetfighter is the same as the 1198. I imagine they may put one more new frame out soon, then they will begin deriving all their lines from the three frames with different parts attached.... but I'm just crystal balling here. What I do see them doing is trying to make their production line more efficient, few full frames=less tooling=less cost and greater production.

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Quote from: Le Pirate on December 17, 2008, 08:26:37 AM
how well do you think it'll off-road with some knobbies mounted?


Lowest hard-part is the oil filter.  No problem on fire roads, but otherwise :-\
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Well, if the Monster and new SV look the same, might as well make something that looks like a V-Strom.
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reminds me of an Aprilia Pegaso.
i dont hate it but that class of bike doesnt float my boat.

wonder why they wouldnt use the 1100 motor that is already in the monster and hyper?

zooom

Quote from: JEFF_H on December 17, 2008, 01:31:20 PM
wonder why they wouldnt use the 1100 motor that is already in the monster and hyper?


well...they made that mistake before when they made the Cagiva Gran Canyon and the Elefant with the old small valve 900cc motor and found that to push the heavier weight as briskly and the chassis in it's different reactive balance that they had to bump up the rear sprocket from a 39 to a 45 tooth and I am guessing that they are trying to avout that...and they are probably looking at CC capacity to power comparo to other air cooled twins like the BMW and the Buell Ullyses and the like...and making a slightly heftier bore with more power to compete.
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Quote from: zooom on December 17, 2008, 02:02:07 PM
.and they are probably looking at CC capacity to power comparo to other air cooled twins like the BMW and the Buell Ullyses and the like...and making a slightly heftier bore with more power to compete.

That's likely the real reason...if the 1200 is indeed in the works. Both the 1000 and 1100 have more than enough power for the current Multi with passenger and such, and I doubt the new version would be a heavier bike. The way Ducati has been going I suspect it will actually be lighter.

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 I own an 07 Multi that I ride everyday. My wife and I have taken several 300-400 mile trips on it. A few months ago I went to a BMW dealer to check out the new F650GS. The only demo bike they had was the R1200GS so I took it for a ride. That bike is smoooth! The suspension and brakes were way better than the Multi. I guess for 18k they should be. I really liked the anti-lock brakes and the fact that the front end didn't dive under hard braking. The wife was ready to trade right then! Lol Until she found out what it cost.

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Quote from: sally101 on December 17, 2008, 07:43:56 AM


Streetfighter is trellis. 1198 is still trellis.

You quoted wrong, I didn't say that....
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Quote from: enzo on December 17, 2008, 12:32:19 PM
Well, if the Monster and new SV look the same, might as well make something that looks like a V-Strom.

Looks exactly like a Wee-strom to me too
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Quote from: RMartin on December 17, 2008, 02:34:57 PM
I own an 07 Multi that I ride everyday. My wife and I have taken several 300-400 mile trips on it. A few months ago I went to a BMW dealer to check out the new F650GS. The only demo bike they had was the R1200GS so I took it for a ride. That bike is smoooth! The suspension and brakes were way better than the Multi. I guess for 18k they should be. I really liked the anti-lock brakes and the fact that the front end didn't dive under hard braking. The wife was ready to trade right then! Lol Until she found out what it cost.

Yeah.....they're a nice ride.
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Quote from: NAKID on December 17, 2008, 03:01:30 PM
You quoted wrong, I didn't say that....

;D You're right.. My bad.. I was trying to manually quote and I put the wrong name in.
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Quote from: DCXCV on December 17, 2008, 11:05:06 AM
Lowest hard-part is the oil filter.  No problem on fire roads, but otherwise :-\

if they use the over-the-clutch front exhaust, it will be easy to put a skid plate on it.

i'd use a plastic one, thick pvc or something that can flex a bit like on the Elefant 650.  attach it ot the lower crankcase bungs that aren't used.
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Quote from: WannaDucBad on December 17, 2008, 07:16:06 AM
The frame in the second one as pointed out above is a photochopped Hyper. I be shocked if it came out like that... at a miniumum that's is a step backward... Ducati seems to be marching forward at the moment... though they have done goofy stuff before.

I actually see the demise of the full trellis frame as a step backward.

Goofy stuff they have done: Indiana, 999, new Monster design.