fire or not to fire

[DucLeone]

that's the question

here's the lowdown
i have this employee, he's been with us for almost 7yrs.
he's 27 and had a history of trouble (drugs) in his younger years
i gave him a chance and it's been great to work with him,convinced him to go to college (and he's almost done)

you get the picture... he's been almost like a child to me and my wife.

He has had an anxiety problem for a long time and used to take meds for it and they worked,but he stopped taking them ("he can't afford it" he says).

A few months back i became suspicious of him using drugs (I'm assuming weed) again and have kept both eyes open at our operation.

Now it's getting worse ,he comes to work claiming he's tired ,don't feel good.....
and many other excuses.

He delivers food in "MY" company vehicle and it's starting to make me worried.

On top of all, last night a reputable source told me that he's been buying shit from a person they know,and he eats Xanex (or whatever it's called) like candies (witch he buys with no prescription).

how do i approach him??

i know i should just fire him and get over it, i mean I'm not his parent and could care less right?
but i do care and don't want it to escalate more then it already is.

Do i have 100% proof of him doing it? >No (if i would, it might be a no brainer),
i even thought about having my insurance force me to Drug test, and he might quit.

what do you guys think? or have you been in a similar situation?

[Fox]

I like the drug test idea. That way you will know with 100% accuracy that he on drugs and can fire him if you feel fit. I would have a heart to heart with him after the positive results of the drug test. At the same time, you can't want him to change more than he does.

[wbeck257]

Has he make the beast with two backsed anything up at work yet? IE Does he do his job?

Pull him aside -- outside of work -- and ask if there is anything he needs to talk you about.
Tell him he can either lie, get fired, or tell the truth, and you can help him.

If he's a good employee, a good person, he deserves help.

[DucLeone]

Has he make the beast with two backsed anything up at work yet? IE Does he do his job?

Pull him aside -- outside of work -- and ask if there is anything he needs to talk you about.
Tell him he can either lie, get fired, or tell the truth, and you can help him.

If he's a good employee, a good person, he deserves help.

and thats were i'm at.

he's been good to me stuck around in bad and good time.
he hasn't really make the beast with two backsed anything up, but i don't wan't it to get there

[wbeck257]

and thats were i'm at.

he's been good to me stuck around in bad and good time.
he hasn't really make the beast with two backsed anything up, but i don't wan't it to get there

then it sounds like its time to put him in to truck and drive to the rehab center.
if he fesses up, check him in. if he doesn't, tell him that you'll fire him at the first mistake.

[Gator]

xanax is a medication used to treat anxiety disorders.

Do you have health insurance for your employees?

If he had a health card his prescriptions would be $10 a refill and he would be buying his meds from the street.


Eating them like candy is a relative term; he could be taking them as he needs them.

A company drug test will show he is taking anxiety medication and you can't fire him for having a disorder if it doesn't effect his job.   

i would just let him know where he stands.
and leave it up to him to change the situation or have it changed for him.

After 7 years with no major make the beast with two backs ups I would say he is worth trying to help.

[Statler]

he's a huge liability for you driving around in your (or your company) truck.  And this thread shows you know or should know about the problem.   you have to do something asap before he does something stupid while in his capacity of employee and drags you and everything you've worked for down with I'm.

[DrDesmo]

he's a huge liability for you driving around in your (or your company) truck.  And this thread shows you know or should know about the problem.   you have to do something asap before he does something stupid while in his capacity of employee and drags you and everything you've worked for down with I'm.

+1

Adam

[Drjones]

What ^ said.

[Statler]

he's a huge liability for you driving around in your (or your company) truck.  And this thread shows you know or should know about the problem.   you have to do something asap before he does something stupid while in his capacity of employee and drags you and everything you've worked for down with I'm.

threadjack..I hate that my phone finishes words for me when I type on it.  Haven't figured out how to turn that off.  So sorry for the spelling and strange words.

[herm]

threadjack..I hate that my phone finishes words for me when I type on it.  Haven't figured out how to turn that off.  So sorry for the spelling and strange words.

you need to change the entry mode from iTap (or whatever your phone calls it) to Tap.
dont ask me how to do that with your phone.

[herm]

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[DesmoDiva]

Go with the drug test....

It makes you seem less of a bad guy, and may make him more receptive to your help.

+1 for what Statler said about the company van. 


sidenote:
I find it hard to believe that he could buy his meds cheaper on the blackmarket than at the pharmacy with a Rx. Maybe I'm just naive. 

[Mother]

Go with the drug test....

It makes you seem less of a bad guy, and may make him more receptive to your help.

+1 for what Statler said about the company van. 


sidenote:
I find it hard to believe that he could buy his meds cheaper on the blackmarket than at the pharmacy with a Rx. Maybe I'm just naive. 

meds are seriously cheap out of our borders


as to this kid

fire him?

really?

based on what, assumption and suspicion?

has he done anything yet to even warrant a UA?

if he crashes the van then sure piss test him and if dirty decide if you want to last chance him or fire him

but otherwise it sounds like you are just coming down on the kid based on his past history

[Popeye the Sailor]

A few months back i became suspicious of him using drugs (I'm assuming weed) again and have kept both eyes open at our operation.

Now it's getting worse ,he comes to work claiming he's tired ,don't feel good.....
and many other excuses.

He might just have a new girlfriend 



I'd do the sit down and have a friendly chat with him thing.