Brand New Rider

Started by LSD4me, December 22, 2008, 01:33:09 PM

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Raux

i love that CHUnK when i step on first gear at lights. other bike riders look at you strange.


hcomp

Quote from: Raux on January 17, 2009, 12:41:17 AM
i love that CHUnK when i step on first gear at lights. other bike riders look at you strange.



LOL yeah they do.!!
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ducaTT

Quote from: grandpa nate on December 22, 2008, 02:01:57 PM
First off.....WELCOME TO THE EXCITING WORLD OF DUCATI OWNERSHIP!!!!  (even though my wifee says the Ducatis own me)

On the subject of frame sliders I have heard that they can actually do more harm than good in a good oopah at anything over 25 mph.  Just sayin.  I could also be completely wrong.

Oh "f" it...just ride the damn thing ;D

I am also considering installing frame sliders on my M696.

Can you or someone explain why its a bad idea to install a frame slider?

grandpa nate

I was thinking about frame sliders as well but was informed by a very reliable source that they can actually done more harm than good when installed on a 2 valve frame.  Something about tweeking the frame more than if not installed.  Again I have not tested this theory (thank god) but I trust the guys at GP as they have never guided me in the wrong direction.

somegirl

My understanding (and personal experience) is that frame sliders work very well for tip-overs and low-speed crashes, which are more typical scenarios for newer and shorter riders. [thumbsup]

However, there are conflicting reports for high-speed crashes, in some cases they seem to protect and some cases they may make it worse.
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Slide Panda

There's a lot of what ifs when it comes to sliders.  Generally they will probably save you money. 

Yes, they can do bad things under the wrong circumstances.  Becuase of the naked nature of the monster they have a greater potential to dig in on soft surfaces when compared to a fully faired bike.  But if you keep it on hard stuff, they will do a lot of keep from grinding holes in your tank, case and occasional yourself
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zLoki

So in most cars, you cant get into first until you are going slower than a certain speed, trying to force it will reward you with some crazy sounds, even with the clutch in.  The clunking may be the result of trying to downshift into first too soon and too fast.  Try staying in second (even with the clutch in) until you are stopped, you'll hear less clunk.
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tristantumble

Quote from: somegirl on January 21, 2009, 08:48:36 AM
My understanding (and personal experience) is that frame sliders work very well for tip-overs and low-speed crashes, which are more typical scenarios for newer and shorter riders. [thumbsup]

However, there are conflicting reports for high-speed crashes, in some cases they seem to protect and some cases they may make it worse.

I agree, in a tip over situation they will save you lots of money, and when it comes to high speed crashes, the last thing i'd be worried about is my bike-- there is insurance for that.
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maillotpois

I tested the frame sliders on a low speed low side of my 696 and they did help prevent major damage.  Be mindful, though, that even "minor" "cosmetic" damage of this bike adds up QUICK!!   :o  I hope you don't ever experience that - or me either, again!   (The good news is I got Termis out of the whole deal.   8)  ).

Have fun and be safe.
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Raux

Quote from: maillotpois on January 21, 2009, 06:56:27 PM
I tested the frame sliders on a low speed low side of my 696 and they did help prevent major damage.  Be mindful, though, that even "minor" "cosmetic" damage of this bike adds up QUICK!!   :o  I hope you don't ever experience that - or me either, again!   (The good news is I got Termis out of the whole deal.   8)  ).

Have fun and be safe.

was wondering about that. so even on a lowside the highexhausts get damaged?

somegirl

Quote from: Raux on January 21, 2009, 09:51:04 PM
was wondering about that. so even on a lowside the highexhausts get damaged?

My Termis have not been damaged with two low-speed crashes (knock on wood).
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maillotpois

Quote from: Raux on January 21, 2009, 09:51:04 PM
was wondering about that. so even on a lowside the highexhausts get damaged?

Well, it got scratched up a bit.  Not too bad, and didn't really "need" replacement.  The cover over the exhaust and exhaust hanger (forgive my lack of accurate terminology  :-[ ) DID get damaged.
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needtorque

This is the way I view frame sliders.  On monsters with the trellis frame they probably do more harm than good to the bike.  However, at higher speeds usually the bike is going to be done for anyway.  Most damage to bikes happens at lower speeds anyway especially for new riders not being able to handle the bike at low speeds.  In these situations frame sliders can save lots of money. 

I say put them in and for low speed save your tank and your money.  For high speed chances are the bike is totaled with or without them so who cares.
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Popeye the Sailor

Quote from: needtorque on January 23, 2009, 12:12:07 PM
This is the way I view frame sliders.  On monsters with the trellis frame they probably do more harm than good to the bike.  However, at higher speeds usually the bike is going to be done for anyway.  Most damage to bikes happens at lower speeds anyway especially for new riders not being able to handle the bike at low speeds.  In these situations frame sliders can save lots of money. 

I say put them in and for low speed save your tank and your money.  For high speed chances are the bike is totaled with or without them so who cares.

Soooo...win win  :)


They also hold it up maybe an extra inch or two when on its side. very little bit helps when picking a bike back up.
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LSD4me

So....Like a DONK, i dropped it today.... [bang]

It was drizzling out so when i went outside to smoke a cig, i noticed a small pool of water accumulating on the instrument panel...I then thought i was the HULK and tilted the bike right to get rid of the water....it topples over like a jenga board...holy f'n shit...i then had such an addrenaline rush i lifted it back up in like 3 seconds...to my SURPRISE...hahaha, NO SCRATES AT ALL.....woo hoo [beer] [beer]

But i still feel like such a f;n donk.... [thumbsup]
2009 M696