I know this is pathetically outdated, but I just watched The Hulk movie

[eltristo]

So I just finished watching The Hulk.  It was, overall, a decent comic book movie.  But I was consistently distracted by the CG.  Every time el hulko makes an appearance it looks like a video game.  I suppose that's a thumbs up to video games, but I like to immerse myself in my movie, and being reminded through crappy graphics that I'm watching a computer animated show is annoying at best.  The best special effects are those that are so seamlessly integrated into the movie that you don't notice. 

That's all I've got.  Annoying guy out.

[IZ]

The first one was worse!  This one wasn't that bad. 

CGI when done as poorly as that first Hulk movie is pure crap!

I HATED Lucas for adding the CGI to the original trilogy..well, actually for the second half too!!

If I want to see a cartoon..I'll go watch Shrek or any other Pixar flick! 

$22 for a movie Hollywood?!  You better show me something good with incredible effects! 

Yes, the CGI is hightech stuff but most of the time, it's no better than the rubber bat flying (where you see the strings) in a Bela Lagosi (sp?) Dracula film.

[eltristo]

Precisely my point!  As soon as you are reminded that you are in a movie due to CGI, why not just use the old crap? 

Oh, and you paid $22 to see a movie?  WTF?

[teddy037.2]

whatever, adam. han can't shoot first, because he's a good guy 

just like the feds in ET. shotguns are bad, and they really only wanted to help!

[IZ]

Oh, and you paid $22 to see a movie?  WTF?

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and Teddy..have another drink!  That ET "Remake" was ridiculous.  Don't remind me!!

[teddy037.2]

and Teddy..have another drink!  That ET "Remake" was ridiculous.  Don't remind me!!

no drink can erase lucas' make the beast with two backs-ups... 

[Slag]

and Teddy..have another drink!  That ET "Remake" was ridiculous.  Don't remind me!!

But he did that for Drew Barrymore! She is anti-gun 

That remake really upset me for some reason.

I have not seen the second hulk movie. I may watch it if it is out on netflix.

[Oldfisti]

The first one was worse!  This one wasn't that bad. 

CGI when done as poorly as that first Hulk movie is pure crap!

I HATED Lucas for adding the CGI to the original trilogy..well, actually for the second half too!!

If I want to see a cartoon..I'll go watch Shrek or any other Pixar flick! 

$22 for a movie Hollywood?!  You better show me something good with incredible effects! 

Yes, the CGI is hightech stuff but most of the time, it's no better than the rubber bat flying (where you see the strings) in a Bela Lagosi (sp?) Dracula film.

As the technology for Hi-Def tv's continues to develop, the limitations of CGI become more readily apparent. My pops just got the high zoot Sony and the picture is AMAZING! The flipside is that CGI stands out like a sore thumb. The "rubber bat" effect. Or as I heard Butthead say once: "These effects aren't very special."   It has it's place and is an extremely useful tool when not overused. However, it's not the panacea to good cinematography as modern film makers would like to believe. Unfortunately the overuse and misuse of CGI has cheapened the movie industry as a whole. Truly great and innovative "old fashioned" effects do stand the test of time. Ever see 2001?


     

                                                                                                         


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I'm with you. If I want to see a good cartoon I'll watch Bugs Bunny! 

   

[derby]

Unfortunately the overuse and misuse of CGI has cheapened the movie industry as a whole. Truly great and innovative "old fashioned" effects do stand the test of time. Ever see 2001?

i agree with you, but only one of those 3 shots you show from 2001, the external shot of discovery, would likely be done w/ CGI today.

i love "oldschool" special effects when they were done right. miniatures are good. cheesy, obvious bluescreen, not so much.

ever listen to the commentary or watch the special features on team america? the effects/model guys were having a blast because they actually got to blow stuff up again. 

[eltristo]

I hadn't considered the hi-def TV argument.  I only have my lowly 720p, but it was still painfully obvious.

As for 2001 - aside from the zooming lights scene (and even it was decent for the day) - perfection.

[Drunken Monkey]

I'm of two minds on CG:

For characters /actors it rarely works. Too much of the so-called uncanny valley going on. And in general it's become a substitute for good cinematography.

For recreating places and things that were real once, but are now lost, it can be awesome: The Colosseum in Gladiator, '20s New York City in the last King Kong, Abandoned New York in I am Legend, The Spitfires & 109s in Dark Blue World. Hell, even the Titanic was decent.

Not to say I loved all these particular movies, but these effects stood out for me.

[Oldfisti]

i agree with you, but only one of those 3 shots you show from 2001, the external shot of discovery, would likely be done w/ CGI today.

i love "oldschool" special effects when they were done right. miniatures are good. cheesy, obvious bluescreen, not so much.

ever listen to the commentary or watch the special features on team america? the effects/model guys were having a blast because they actually got to blow stuff up again. 

Team America is one of those movies I know is really funny but I haven't seen for some reason. Last time it was on Comedy central I avoided it b/c I wanted to watch it properly. Looks like I'll be using my credit at Wallyworld to pick up my own copy.  

Getting back to 2001 for a min, exterior shots were hard to find so it was necessary to use some interiors. I wonder however if the space station interior hallway sequences (white with red chairs) would have been faked today considering the expense of building a curved set that long vs. the few minutes of filler footage that it yielded?

[derby]

I wonder however if the space station interior hallway sequences (white with red chairs) would have been faked today considering the expense of building a curved set that long vs. the few minutes of filler footage that it yielded?

i'd rather see the scene eliminated altogether rather than done (very) poorly.

[Oldfisti]

For recreating places and things that were real once, but are now lost, it can be awesome: The Colosseum in Gladiator, '20s New York City in the last King Kong, Abandoned New York in I am Legend, The Spitfires & 109s in Dark Blue World. Hell, even the Titanic was decent.

Not to say I loved all these particular movies, but these effects stood out for me.

This is proper use of CGI  IMO.            Will have to see Dark Blue World now, too.   

[Oldfisti]

i'd rather see the scene eliminated altogether rather than done (very) poorly.

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