why oh why did it have to be VS?

Started by Grampa, May 12, 2008, 03:36:21 PM

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Grampa

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mitt

can you imagine.

board rule:  each post must contain nudity   [laugh]

mitt

duc_fan

what the...  :P

One company...  owning bigchurch.com, penthouse, and adultfriendfinder.com...  you gotta wonder about some of the folks signing up... are they all ignorant?   :-\
"Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind." -- Albert Einstein

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zarn02

well...

is this morally equivilant to owning a ford and a chevy, or loving both the M-16 and the AK-47, or thinking the charlie and the horse are best when combined into a speedball?

(i've got nothin'.)
"If it weren't for our gallows humor, we'd have nothing to hang our hopes on."

Vindingo

Quote from: BibleBoy on May 12, 2008, 10:45:57 PM
  you gotta wonder about some of the folks signing up... are they all ignorant?   :-\

Im assuming it was a somewhat rhetorical question, but the answer could be yes and no... 

Im sure there are a ton of people who didnt know that VS owned the DML and a bunch of other boards, I dont know which ones they are.
(hypothetically speaking)
if they kept the DML had not changed and VS also owned an "I like getting pee'd on" forum, which I was moral opposed to, I dont know if it would stop me from going on the DML.  I guess the question would boil down to "do I like this more, than I am against that?"     

I also just looked up bigchurch.com because I have never heard of it and this is was it says about their parent company:

  The FriendFinder Network is the leading global online relationship network, allowing over 100 million registered members to confidentially and anonymously meet people with similar interests and mindsets in a safe, fun environment. Founded in 1996 and privately owned, The FriendFinder Network operates with a staff of over 200 from its corporate headquarters in sunny Palo Alto, California.

You would have to do a bit of digging to find out that these people own Penthouse too.  Its just not worth most peoples time

duc_fan

Quote from: zarn02 on May 12, 2008, 10:59:05 PM
well...

is this morally equivilant to owning a ford and a chevy, or loving both the M-16 and the AK-47, or thinking the charlie and the horse are best when combined into a speedball?

(i've got nothin'.)

To the non-religious observer, I suppose that's all it looks like.  Ford and Chevy.  For myself and a large number of my real-life friends, it's incomprehensibly more important.  (incomprehensible to the morally ambiguous observer, that is)

To the one whose lifestyle is founded in Judeo-Christian values, those two sites are morally irreconcilable, and (knowingly) paying the parent company is essentially condoning the other behaviours.  Note that I am not saying anything about the folks who are unaware of what else the parent company owns.

This is simply meant to be an informative post, so that hopefully the reader will realise that no, not everyone takes the same morally flexible view of such... er, "diverse" business interests.  (and realise that some who have a less flexible view do in fact frequent this board)
"Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind." -- Albert Einstein

"I want a peaceful soul. I need a bigger gun." -- Charlie Crews on Life

Street: 2000 Cagiva Gran Canyon
Track: 2005 Honda CBR 600RR - Salvage project
Sold: 2001 Ducati SS900ie - Gone, but not forgotten...

NuTTs

I knew that ducati.ms was one of theirs, I'm registered there.. the monster section was boring.. the SBK section is good and there are plenty of helpful people there.

Gixxer.com is (i think) on of their's also - I've never really been active there either but it is also a good source for info when you have an 18 year old sportsbike and want to learn a bit more about it.

The DML.. well, the transition has just been wrong.

Never mind.

zarn02

Quote from: BibleBoy on May 13, 2008, 12:04:30 AM
To the non-religious observer, I suppose that's all it looks like.  Ford and Chevy.  For myself and a large number of my real-life friends, it's incomprehensibly more important.  (incomprehensible to the morally ambiguous observer, that is)

To the one whose lifestyle is founded in Judeo-Christian values, those two sites are morally irreconcilable, and (knowingly) paying the parent company is essentially condoning the other behaviours.  Note that I am not saying anything about the folks who are unaware of what else the parent company owns.

This is simply meant to be an informative post, so that hopefully the reader will realise that no, not everyone takes the same morally flexible view of such... er, "diverse" business interests.  (and realise that some who have a less flexible view do in fact frequent this board)

in the interests of full disclosure, i was just being flippant in my response.

to address it less dismissively, i think the varied properties of the corporation show a general moral indifference, but i'm happy to leave it up to the individual to determine what that means to him or her, or how they'd like to address it.
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Vindingo

Quote from: BibleBoy on May 13, 2008, 12:04:30 AM
This is simply meant to be an informative post, so that hopefully the reader will realise that no, not everyone takes the same morally flexible view of such... er, "diverse" business interests.  (and realise that some who have a less flexible view do in fact frequent this board)

just playing  [evil] advocate here...

Does it make a difference that it is a business?   If they were non-profit, would it matter?   Would you no longer use the DMF if they creators also had a porn site?  

Adam in TX

hmmm... I think I may put a profile on bigchurch.com. They'd never see what hit 'em  [evil]

duc_fan

Quote from: Vindingo on May 13, 2008, 12:24:47 AM
just playing  [evil] advocate here...

Does it make a difference that it is a business?   If they were non-profit, would it matter?   Would you no longer use the DMF if they creators also had a porn site?   

I should know better than to take this bait, because I've debated enough of this with you before... [roll]

For me, yes, it would matter.  No, I wouldn't use the site anymore.  This is in the situation where the site owners/creators also operated a site I considered morally reprehensible, and the connection between said owners and the other site was apparent to me.

Again, informative post only, I'm not telling anyone else here what to do.
"Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind." -- Albert Einstein

"I want a peaceful soul. I need a bigger gun." -- Charlie Crews on Life

Street: 2000 Cagiva Gran Canyon
Track: 2005 Honda CBR 600RR - Salvage project
Sold: 2001 Ducati SS900ie - Gone, but not forgotten...

junior varsity

I have trouble seeing why you wouldn't continue on here (there:bigchurch/dmf) and just never go to the other site (over there: porno)

If its a way to get the message out in a positive way, but has a slight negative aspect, is the greater good not worth it?

The 100% right or its all crap thoughts are what the guys spewing nonsense at SEC Football games are about, and though they thinking they are doing the good work of God by screaming: "you are going to hell for coming to this game, drinking a beer and hoping the auburn QB is crushed under the Georgia defense"

It always bothers me so much, that I cannot help but tell them everytime I see them on Beale St. that they are doing far more harm than good to the Christian cause.

junior varsity

I'd also like to point out that I don't think that it waters down the message at all either, since there aren't porn-related ads at the church website, so I don't think it boycotting can be justified on the grounds that the message is diluted.

Pip

Quote from: ato memphis on May 14, 2008, 05:16:57 AM
The 100% right or its all crap thoughts are what the guys spewing nonsense at SEC Football games are about, and though they thinking they are doing the good work of God by screaming: "you are going to hell for coming to this game, drinking a beer and hoping the auburn QB is crushed under the Georgia defense"

Is it okay if I don't drink, and still hope the Auburn QB is crushed under the Alabama Defense?  ;D
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