What shocks fit S2R1000?

Started by vaclav, January 06, 2009, 04:29:12 PM

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vaclav

So I have searched around a little, placed a few calls, sent a few PM's, and haven't found the answer(s). I am trying to figure out what shocks will just bolt right in, right out of the box, no problems. Anybody have a brand/model number/price/vendor that fits the bill? I would really like to hear about first-hand experiences. Thanks.

TAftonomos

A sachs shock, found on my 07 s4rt will bolt in, no problems.  $110 shipped (in the FS ads, from me)

Other options are a DU333 Ohlins (triple w/remote preload) $875 DK Racing, $1127 retail (everywhere else)
Penske double adjustable $850 (traxxion?)

999 showa will also bolt on, but you'll need to move a few things.

He Man

TAfts' S4RT shock fits because of its reservoir. Its almost as if it was made for ducati monsters.

Every other shock that doesnt have an external reservoir, will require the crankcase breather box to be moved at the very least. Then the coil adapter.

I have a 999 Showa waiting to be installed. I also have  a 1098 showa on hand but it wont fit the S2R1000 without jacking up the rear a bit since the swingarm might hit the reservoir.

TAftonomos

Quote from: He Man on January 06, 2009, 06:13:28 PM

I have a 999 Showa waiting to be installed. I also have  a 1098 showa on hand but it wont fit the S2R1000 without jacking up the rear a bit since the swingarm might hit the reservoir.

I wish that wasn't the case.  The TTX for the 1098 is awesome, and you can (or could) get them for $800 with the MSNlive cashback deal on ebay.  It's almost worth the small mod to the swingarm to make it fit.....hmmm....

Speeddog

Do you have a pic of the S4Rt shock in an S2R1k?
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He Man

Quote from: TAftonomos on January 06, 2009, 10:04:23 PM
I wish that wasn't the case.  The TTX for the 1098 is awesome, and you can (or could) get them for $800 with the MSNlive cashback deal on ebay.  It's almost worth the small mod to the swingarm to make it fit.....hmmm....

What if i told you the shock weighed 1lb less? since its shorter?  ;D

TAftonomos

Quote from: Speeddog on January 06, 2009, 10:20:44 PM
Do you have a pic of the S4Rt shock in an S2R1k?

No, I don't.

The 999 shock fits both the S4 and S2

The 999 shock is the same length as the S2R shock (monstermash)

The 999 shock is the same length as the S4R shock (Me)

= S4R shock fits the S2R.

Gus Duc

Quote from: TAftonomos on January 07, 2009, 12:07:30 PM
No, I don't.

The 999 shock fits both the S4 and S2

The 999 shock is the same length as the S2R shock (monstermash)

The 999 shock is the same length as the S4R shock (Me)

= S4R shock fits the S2R.

So both the 999 & the s4rt shock will bolt up without mods to an S2R1K if the rear is raised ???

Any difference between the two ???

aaronb

Quote from: TAftonomos on January 07, 2009, 12:07:30 PM
No, I don't.

The 999 shock fits both the S4 and S2

The 999 shock is the same length as the S2R shock (monstermash)

The 999 shock is the same length as the S4R shock (Me)

= S4R shock fits the S2R.

i thought the reservoir hits the coil on both of the choices.  the S4Rt would allow you to leave the breather box though.  i have a 999 showa that i have dry fit and it was fine once i moved the coil and removed the breather box.  i just need to get a new spring on it and am hoping it will be good. 

side question, does anyone know the oil weight in the 999 showa?
Milwaukee, WI
'07 s2r1k, '81 honda cb400t

TAftonomos

Quote from: Gus Duc on January 07, 2009, 04:09:06 PM
So both the 999 & the s4rt shock will bolt up without mods to an S2R1K if the rear is raised ???

Any difference between the two ???

Yes and No.

The 1098 shock requires the end to be raised quite a bit because the reservoir points backwards and can make contact with the swingarm.

The 999 showa fits, but you'ld need to move some things.  The reservoir will hit the breather box.

The S4Rt shock should fit WITHOUT having to move anything.  It's just adjustable

Gus Duc

Quote from: TAftonomos on January 08, 2009, 10:34:32 AM
Yes and No.

The 1098 shock requires the end to be raised quite a bit because the reservoir points backwards and can make contact with the swingarm.

The 999 showa fits, but you'ld need to move some things.  The reservoir will hit the breather box.

The S4Rt shock should fit WITHOUT having to move anything.  It's just adjustable

Thanks [thumbsup]

I was actually asking the performanse differences, if any, between a 1098, 999, & S4RT rear shock.  I've got my rear height adjusted as high as it will go without switching to a longer rod.

Has anyone fitted the S4RT rear shock to an S2R1K ???

vaclav

I got a response from Traxxion today. They said they talked to Penske and Penske claimed to have had only one issue with fitting their products on a S2R 1000 which they have since resolved. They did not specify what the issue was. Traxxion says they have had no complaints about any shocks they have sold to S2R 1000 owners. Any Penske owners out there want to weigh in? Ohlins? Elka?

Ivan

Quote from: =P on January 08, 2009, 05:20:39 PM
I got a response from Traxxion today. They said they talked to Penske and Penske claimed to have had only one issue with fitting their products on a S2R 1000 which they have since resolved. They did not specify what the issue was. Traxxion says they have had no complaints about any shocks they have sold to S2R 1000 owners. Any Penske owners out there want to weigh in? Ohlins? Elka?

Penske shocks will fit, but it might not fit the first time just as it comes out of the box.  I bought mine from TD.  I had some issues installing it, because of the way the hose fitting was installed on the shock.  I called Penske directly, explained the problem, and they told me that it was OK to go ahead and torque the 90* fitting an additional 45* in order to make it fit.  My only concern was that the fitting might break from the torque, and I wanted to make sure they would fix it for free if that happened.  It didn't break when I torqued it, and all has been well.

Sold: 2007 S2R1000 for canyon carving and commuting - DP ECU, PCIII, BMC air filter with open box, Zard full exhaust, Race-tech fork internals, Ohlins steering damper, and a Penske 8987 triple clicker

2000 996XU (extra ugly) for track days - BST carbon wheels, Ohlins shock, reworked fork, FBF exhaust, and a bunch of megacycle rocker arms. The rest of it is junk - Hey, I'm just happy that it runs...

Sold: 2002 Aprilia RST1000 for touring - De-restricted airbox, Taylormade Racing exhaust

Gus Duc

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Quote from: Ivan on January 08, 2009, 05:27:22 PM
Penske shocks will fit, but it might not fit the first time just as it comes out of the box.  I bought mine from TD.  I had some issues installing it, because of the way the hose fitting was installed on the shock.  I called Penske directly, explained the problem, and they told me that it was OK to go ahead and torque the 90* fitting an additional 45* in order to make it fit.  My only concern was that the fitting might break from the torque, and I wanted to make sure they would fix it for free if that happened.  It didn't break when I torqued it, and all has been well.



I nominate Ivan for BoMB.... that's one sweet S2R you have put together.... let's see some pics [thumbsup]

vaclav

I am trying to figure out why Ivan did not have the linkage interference problem that Speeddog mentions in this thread: http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=16988.0. Granted Speeddog is talking about a S4R rather than a S2R 1000. Is the layout of the rear components really any different between the two models?