Ducati V-One - Twin to Supercharged Single Conversion

[Oldfisti]

http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2009/01/12/ducati-v-one-twin-to-supercharged-single-conversion/                   Interesting concept...

[Drunken Monkey]

Fun! I've been wondering when someone would get around to something like this.

If you're going to lop off one cylinder to make a single, but still need "something" there for counter balancing things... why not make it an air pump?   

Still, I'm a bit shocked he was able to make more power than the original motor... That's a LOT of boost to be running on an air cooled engine.

Plus all that extra plumbing has got to mean extra weight... Not the trade off I'd have made if I were building something like this.

Still, way cool as a 'why the hell not' sort of exercise. Maybe this will inspire others (Ducati even?) to try a "less weight' approach.

[Rameses]

Hasn't this already been done?

[Fresh Pants]

Hasn't this already been done?

[pennyrobber]

Still, I'm a bit shocked he was able to make more power than the original motor... That's a LOT of boost to be running on an air cooled engine.

Plus all that extra plumbing has got to mean extra weight... Not the trade off I'd have made if I were building something like this.

I agree with the weight issue. There might be some way around it though seeing as you could probably use a very light piston and con-rod on the compressor side to save some weight. Maybe getting rid of the exaust plumbing from the vertical cylider will also help. Interesting idea either way.

[Oldfisti]

I agree with the weight issue. There might be some way around it though seeing as you could probably use a very light piston and con-rod on the compressor side to save some weight.

Might that throw the engine significantly out of balance?

[Speeddog]

That mind-reading bastaard stole my idea! 

[zooom]

all I can say is....how much and how do I get one?....that seems simply AWESOME for a track tool!

[Keld]

VW buuild a supercharged engine during WWII , where 2 cylinders charged the other 2 in their boxer engine. So the idea is far from new.

[mitt]

VW buuild a supercharged engine during WWII , where 2 cylinders charged the other 2 in their boxer engine. So the idea is far from new.

Did the 2 cylinders charge the other 2 using their crankcase pressure from their power stroke?   Just asking, cause I assume that is how it worked - and it would be pretty cool.

mitt

[Oldfisti]

VW buuild a supercharged engine during WWII , where 2 cylinders charged the other 2 in their boxer engine. So the idea is far from new.

Seems like most all the "new" mechanical ideas were developed pre-WW2 with exception of the Wankel and Quasiturbine.

2 stroke
4 stroke
inline
V
W
radial
OHV
OHC
multiple valves/cyl
turbocharging
supercharging
fuel injection
hybrid electric
automatic transmission
fully independent suspension


I'm sure I missed some stuff here...

[Popeye the Sailor]

Seems like most all the "new" mechanical ideas were developed pre-WW2 with exception of the Wankel and Quasiturbine.

2 stroke
4 stroke
inline
V
W
radial
OHV
OHC
multiple valves/cyl
turbocharging
supercharging
fuel injection
hybrid electric
automatic transmission
fully independent suspension


I'm sure I missed some stuff here...

Hemi heads  (Duesenberg did them, IIRC)

[Speeddog]

Hemi heads  (Duesenberg did them, IIRC)

And, strangest of all, Desmo valves prior to WWII as well...

[Keld]

Did the 2 cylinders charge the other 2 using their crankcase pressure from their power stroke?   Just asking, cause I assume that is how it worked - and it would be pretty cool.

mitt

I dont get what you mean, but  I will try to find the book where I read it, and then get back to you.

[El Matador]

I was just about to derby this. It is freaking amazing.

The enginerd in me is all kinds of flipping out about it.

I'll keep this in mind for my thesis, I'm racking my brain on how to make this better, lighter, more powerful.