Monster challenge not so great according to owners....suggestions?

[zooom]

maybe I was being a bit harsh, but the way I read your comment was that a dealer is not an enthusiast and therefore it doesn't count or matter. I think that is absolutely wrong. Some of these dealers poured some labor and love in and most didn't. There are constraints, yes. Do they count, in my mind, yes they do. Not everyone can perform magical miracles and make that outta the park bike. There are shops that are dedicated to doing exactly that like Duck-Stews crew as well as some other shops. Hell, the MotoWheels guys make a serious effort and they aren't a dealer either. The other end of what I read in your comment was that if it wasn't common man that is doing it, then it doesn't count because a common man is an enthusiast. Perception is a helluva thing in the written word and I am sorry if I misconstrued what you wrote.

on the thought that I am personally attacking you, I am not. I called your comment ignorant, not you. sorry if you took it personally. I was a bit strong in reply and apologize for that because that could be my fault just as much as anything else due to what I read in your reply whether intended or otherwise.

[mitt]

OK, enough tangents.  Lets get back to how to make the challenge better.

mitt

[fasterblkduc]

maybe I was being a bit harsh, but the way I read your comment was that a dealer is not an enthusiast and therefore it doesn't count or matter. I think that is absolutely wrong. Some of these dealers poured some labor and love in and most didn't. There are constraints, yes. Do they count, in my mind, yes they do. Not everyone can perform magical miracles and make that outta the park bike. There are shops that are dedicated to doing exactly that like Duck-Stews crew as well as some other shops. Hell, the MotoWheels guys make a serious effort and they aren't a dealer either. The other end of what I read in your comment was that if it wasn't common man that is doing it, then it doesn't count because a common man is an enthusiast. Perception is a helluva thing in the written word and I am sorry if I misconstrued what you wrote.

on the thought that I am personally attacking you, I am not. I called your comment ignorant, not you. sorry if you took it personally. I was a bit strong in reply and apologize for that because that could be my fault just as much as anything else due to what I read in your reply whether intended or otherwise.

no worries

[duccarlos]

OK, enough tangents.  Lets get back to how to make the challenge better.

mitt

See my comments above. But seriously, give the dealers more time to develop significant mods. They understand that they have access to some pretty good customers that have good (and sometimes bad when it comes to BP and Motogpfan. Who in the world likes oyster shooters?) ideas about customizing Monsters. This whole thing sounds like 2 dudes up at DNA sitting around some beers right before the 1100 launch talking about ways to get everyone excited about the bike. They probably then pitch the idea to the higher ups and voila! We have a challenge, which we're calling a challenge, but it really isn't.

[Kopfjäger]

Or like I said, DNA hopes the DOC's will do the Challenge, so it's up to us. 

[Grampa]

Or like I said, DNA hopes the DOC's will do the Challenge, so it's up to us. 

you can dooooo it

[ducatiz]

Or like I said, DNA hopes the DOC's will do the Challenge, so it's up to us. 

then lets nominate someone to run it.

i nominate Statler.

[ducpainter]

then lets nominate someone to run it.

i nominate Statler.

I don't think we're an official DOC...

do we want to be?

[ducatiz]

I don't think we're an official DOC...

do we want to be?

maybe yes, maybe no.

might be more fun to start a real hooligan DOC which does all the things that DNA wants people to think they do.

[duccarlos]

I would suggest working through Vicki Smith to get all the DOCs on board.

[duccarlos]

maybe yes, maybe no.

might be more fun to start a real hooligan DOC which does all the things that DNA wants people to think they do.

Hooligans? Where?

[MonsterSteve]

the Monster challenge is about members customizing their Monsters, custom exhaust or even aftermarket, custom lights, custom looks overall, NOT lets custom paint some easily removeable side panels and call it "custom" I understand that the removable side panels is a selling feature, and I for one think its cool, but not enough to call it a custom monster and throw it into a "Monster Challenge"

fyi, I dont hate this Monster challenge by any means, I just think its weak.

[herm]

I don't think we're an official DOC...

do we want to be?

DOCIMBY?
DOCIMP?

i think.............

[Statler]

Would it have been less disappointing if it were marketed as a tank skin painting competition?  (or marketed at all?   )

Then the Termi cans and small bits-n-pieces would be just fluff extra, and we'd be looking at and talking about the tank skins.

[ducatiz]

Would it have been less disappointing if it were marketed as a tank skin painting competition?  (or marketed at all?   )

Then the Termi cans and small bits-n-pieces would be just fluff extra, and we'd be looking at and talking about the tank skins.

... and saying what a lame-ass idea for a competition.

i know -- let's have a mirror customizing competition.  everyone in for it?  everyone customize your mirrors and we'll vote on it -- ready? steady?  GO!

-- extra points if you paint-match your fenders.