5.56 vs. 7.62

Started by Sinister, January 15, 2009, 02:41:53 PM

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Holden

Quote from: He Man on January 18, 2009, 04:42:05 PM
How can this get political? Its just ammo!

Geneva convention w/r/t fully jacketed rounds. :-X

ducpainter

Quote from: ducatizzzz on January 18, 2009, 08:57:14 AM
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Just for the record, I did not say that EVERY serviceman today is a shitty shooter.  We have plenty of skilled marksmen and DMs.  However, among the NON-DMs, the average shooting ability is much lower than it was in the last generation.   This is due to changes in the population (Fewer hunters, more urbanization, anti-gun politics and policies).

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Ya almost had me till there....
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ducatiz

Quote from: kopfjager on January 18, 2009, 04:28:29 PM

So you are saying the reason the US Military went from the 7.62 to the 5.56 was due to less shooting experience by recruits?c

nope, i am not saying the reason the US Military went from the 7.62 to the 5.56 was due to less shooting experience by recuits.

Quote from: ducpainter on January 18, 2009, 05:49:52 PM
Ya almost had me till there....

it wasn't meant to be a political comment, i should have said "anti-gun laws and policies"..  For instance, the "Safe Schools Act" which prohibited firearms within 500 (?) feet of a school (this provision was struck down by the USSC as being overbroad under the Commerce Clause)
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ducpainter

Quote from: ducatizzzz on January 18, 2009, 06:38:49 PM
nope, i am not saying the reason the US Military went from the 7.62 to the 5.56 was due to less shooting experience by recuits.

it wasn't meant to be a political comment, i should have said "anti-gun laws and policies"..  For instance, the "Safe Schools Act" which prohibited firearms within 500 (?) feet of a school (this provision was struck down by the USSC as being overbroad under the Commerce Clause)
I really can't comment on the USSC decision...

because I can't do it without getting political...for the sake of argument, the US legal code shall be considered political in this forum...

and neither can you. ;)
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ducatiz

Quote from: ducpainter on January 18, 2009, 06:46:32 PM
I really can't comment on the USSC decision...

because I can't do it without getting political...for the sake of argument, the US legal code shall be considered political in this forum...

and neither can you. ;)


so commenting on Federal law on any topic is a problem here?  wow...   [roll]
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He Man

yup anything with the word federal  and law is political.

the both of them together in  1 sentence spells XXX.

ducpainter

Quote from: ducatizzzz on January 18, 2009, 08:25:58 PM
so commenting on Federal law on any topic is a problem here?  wow...   [roll]
No.

You're getting dramatic.

Comment all you want.

The discussion that follows will become political and you know it...it's inevitable.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."



Big Troubled Bear

The political situation in Zimbabwe sucks and they use 7.62 [thumbsup]
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acalles

When compaired to the 7.62x39, the 5.56 was supposed to have better stopping power and greater capacity, with eugene stoner's origional intent.

I had read a few articles about the origional design of the 5.56. It was to be used in a slow twist bbl, that left the bullet on the edge of stabiliztion causing it to tumble violently on impact. but the military change the twist to get better accuracy, which reduced the tumbling and stopping power.
I remember reading an article about how they also change to a inferior powder, that cause the jamming issues early on..

ducatiz

Quote from: ducpainter on January 19, 2009, 04:43:35 AM
No.

You're getting dramatic.

Comment all you want.

The discussion that follows will become political and you know it...it's inevitable.


meh...
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DRKWNG

Quote from: He Man on January 19, 2009, 01:05:40 AM
yup anything with the word federal  and law is political.

the both of them together in  1 sentence spells XXX.

So that is how porn came about?

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Quote from: DRKWNG on January 19, 2009, 11:52:53 AM
So that is how porn came about?

Of course. Telling me getting f*cked doesn't come to mind when you think of that combination?
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