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ducpainter

#120
February 10, 2009, 12:37:59 PM
Quote from: rgramjet on February 10, 2009, 12:21:43 PM
How did we get from black rifle calibers to "Guys in touch with their feminine side"?? 

Go start a popped collar and long hair thread, buncha hippies!
In true DMF fashion...

this thread has been jacked.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on February 10, 2009, 11:35:45 AM
Nope, it was not cold.

You had a pink shirt on, with a popped collar.



Zltful had on a purple one

[laugh] [laugh]
We were trying to coordinate with your skirt
Quote from: Court-Jester on February 10, 2009, 12:33:55 PM
The use of the word "bro"

The word...man

needs a rest.

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TiAvenger

#121
February 10, 2009, 12:39:16 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on February 10, 2009, 12:37:59 PM
In true DMF fashion...

this thread has been jacked.We were trying to coordinate with your skirtThe word...man

needs a rest.

Kumbaya... [beer]

Ok dude-guy-bro.

cyrus buelton

#122
February 10, 2009, 12:42:43 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on February 10, 2009, 12:37:59 PM
.We were trying to coordinate with your skirtThe word...man


Most know those as Kilts.........

[roll]


[moto]
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ducpainter

#123
February 10, 2009, 12:49:44 PM
Quote from: cyrus buelton on February 10, 2009, 12:42:43 PM

Most know those as Kilts.........

[roll]


[moto]
[laugh]
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
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ducatiz

#124
February 10, 2009, 02:41:47 PM
Quote from: cyrus buelton on February 10, 2009, 12:42:43 PM

Most know those as Kilts.........

yes, but yours had "CATHOLIC SCHOOL GIRL SKIRT" on the package when you got it.
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Mother

#125
February 10, 2009, 09:29:44 PM
ok ok back to the topic.

I get the "not calling it an assault rifle" thing, but what do you call it? they aren't all carbines. would you call the full length versions semi automatic rifles? the AR-15 sorta make the beast with two backss that idea up doesn't it?

Mother

#126
February 10, 2009, 09:34:39 PM
and wasn't the AR-15 first built by Colt? why do the gun forums say AR stands for "Armalite" who's got the poop on the AR-15 Hx?

Jobu

#127
February 10, 2009, 09:41:14 PM
Quote from: Mother on February 10, 2009, 09:34:39 PM
and wasn't the AR-15 first built by Colt? why do the gun forums say AR stands for "Armalite" who's got the poop on the AR-15 Hx?

Because Armalite made the original AR-15.  Then Colt sort of took over with the production of the M-16 and now the M-4.
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Mother

#128
February 10, 2009, 09:50:17 PM
I thought Eugene Stoner developed the AR-15 for Colt as a lightweight version of the AR-10 where did Armalite come into the picture? did Stoner sub them or did he work for them?

Rameses

#129
February 10, 2009, 10:07:47 PM
Quote from: Mother on February 10, 2009, 09:50:17 PM
I thought Eugene Stoner developed the AR-15 for Colt as a lightweight version of the AR-10 where did Armalite come into the picture? did Stoner sub them or did he work for them?



Stoner worked for ArmaLite.  He left them in 1961 to work as a consultant for Colt after the rights to the AR-10 and AR-15 were sold to them in 1959.

ducatiz

#130
February 11, 2009, 06:40:41 AM
Quote from: Jobu on February 10, 2009, 09:41:14 PM
Because Armalite made the original AR-15.  Then Colt sort of took over with the production of the M-16 and now the M-4.

Colt's DoD contract began winding down in the late 80's and FN (FN USA) won the contract to build M16 and M4 rifles (as well as a few others).

"M16" and "M4" are DoD designations of a GI model rifle, Colt doesn't own that name.  Colt made the M16 SP1 originally, but that was their "AR-15" with full auto.

Armalite is the original maker of the AR rifles.. AR stands for Armalite Rifle

Belgian rifles.
Italian pistols (beretta makes the M9 pistol)
German SOF pistol and smgs (HK makes the USP and MP-5, i don't know the DoD designation on those)
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kutter

#131
February 11, 2009, 07:31:16 AM
In an effort to get back on topic, silly I know, I would submit that the two different rounds are suitable for different things. While there can certainly be some overlap, the .308 has a much longer effective range than a .223. I have both, but my .308 is a built up Thompson Encore, with handloads I get about 3/4 MOA out to about 400 hundred yards. I have not tried beyond that since I have not found a range longer than that yet. My .223 is a Sig 556, it has iron sights on it right now, I am waiting to put the new Burris 3X tactical sight on it and see what it is capable of. I am not currently using handloads on it and have only shot it out to about 100yds and I get about 1 1/2 MOA on it. I know that the .223 is capable of 400 yard shots but it bleeds so much energy out that far and a semi-auto rifle sacrifices accuracy that when the apocalypse comes I will reach out and touch them with the .308 until they get within 200 yds then switch to the .223.
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Sinister

#132
February 11, 2009, 08:28:37 AM
^^^^ Navy SEALS are using a 5.56-chambered SPR as a "light" sniper rifle and taking targets out to 600+ meters.  Sniper rifles chambered in .308 are commonly taking targets at 1,000+ meters. 
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cyrus buelton

#133
February 11, 2009, 10:10:14 AM
The Delta guys used to carrry a CAR-15, what is the difference between that and the AR-15/M16/etc
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Sinister

#134
February 11, 2009, 10:38:15 AM
Quote from: cyrus buelton on February 11, 2009, 10:10:14 AM
The Delta guys used to carrry a CAR-15, what is the difference between that and the AR-15/M16/etc

Does 'C' stand for 'carbine'?  I thought that AR-15 was just a civilian moniker for the military's M16.  Dunno.
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