Brake / Clutch Leavers - Shorty or Long

[Dannog]

I'm after some aftermarket brake and clutch leavers as the OEM ones are not adjustable. (plus they look great  )

I checked out 3 main manufactures and based on price, they go in order cheapest to most expensive.

Pazzo (~$180USD) -> CRG (~$185USD) -> ASG (~$240USD)

Colour options aside, I was wondering if I should go with shorties or standard length.

Does anyone have experience good or bad on either?

Are some of the shorties shorter than others ie 2 or 3 fingures?

Should I consider long clutch and short brake?

[Dockstrada]

The only problem i have had with Long's, is under heavy brakeing with 3 fingers even with them adjusted all the way out,I can pull the leavers all the way to my knuckles.This has only happened on the track.
But its still something to concider .

Don't know about the short ones, still don't think I would change.

I have also installed long ones the Desmo. (Pazzo's)

I find that the pazzo's are a better than the other as Pazzo's  are precision machined and have much tighter tolerances.

The others are injection casting which needs larger tolerance allowances for assembly, in my opinion the are a little loose in the assembly .

Although, the ASG are also machine just like Pazzo so same same .

They all  have their own features so you need to make the choice for you .

But I like the Pazzo longs , only because i hold the bars right on the ends in the twisty stuff for extra purchase on the bars and need the extra length on the leavers

[loony888]

either brake with all four fingers, accepted proper method, for the exact reason you have given or replace your pads and fluid. (or both!)
CRG are machined from billet, i have them on my S4R and aside from the sharp profile where your fingers roll over the face of the lever, they're great. you do get used to the different profile though, which you will have to do whichever you buy as they're all slightly different. i don't know anything about the ASG's, never even seen em. shortys look good but offer limited area for grip, the long ones are at risk of breaking if the bike is in a fall, i have long ones but the shortys weren't made when i bought mine, that said, i'd still choose long ones, on long rides the clutch may get tiring being shorter, the other factor, that owners with shortys can clarify better would maybe be your hands are in a very specific spot on the bar to reach the smaller surface area??? dunno, just a thought.

paul.

[mattyvas]

I have CRG long levers.
I do like the look of shorties but IMO if you are going to be on the track regularly they will serve you well.
IF you are road riding only and maybe getting on the track every now and then long levers will serve you better.

[Betty]

We decided on the long Pazzo levers. ASG were not on the radar back then. CRGs were a bit more expensive and there was also something about a clutch tab ?? ... I believe it may have been fixed but thought there was something which did not allow you to start the bike while in gear, despite having the clutch in (if you are into that sort of thing). Happy to be corrected though.

Hadn't heard anything bad about the Pazzos. I also asked about the long vs short (may have been on TOB) with all the usual considerations and decided on the long (I always use 4 fingers)

[loony888]

yep, betty you are spot on! there was an issue with the pazzos having a tab for the clutch microswitch on the underside and the crg's didn't.
iirc, when i fitted mine i used the cad plated cylinder that had a plunger for the m/cyl located with a GRUB SCREW and a flat section that protruded out the bottom for the switch.

paul.

[techno]

I've got short CRG's. Got them off someone on this board from the US.

I got used to the short levers quickly and don't even think about it now. Having them adjustable is really handy.

[q monster]

i have shorty Titax - great feel, easy to fit, i really cant see any reason for the long type - easy enough to stab the front brake if you need to as nearly all your grip strength comes thru the first 2 fingers.