Ex-Box Vs. Open "Udder" - 07 S2R1K

[ProTeal55]

QUESTION:

How is the sound of a Ex-Box system compared to a open udder on a S2R1K ?
I ask becasue I have never heard an Ex-Box in real life, and only have what people have said on here to compare.
I am having a hard time finding a loud system to put on my bike that will give me a open Termi sound, but will also keep the rear wheel open (cant cover it - way to pretty ). I know everyone is gonna say to go with BoomTubes but I am really not a fan of the look. I want my biek to be heard coming down the street, which it does not do now with the open udder. It sound good around the bike, but as the bike goes away from ya it is quiet..I want to keep the bike as "CLEAN" looking as possibile, which means keeping that rear wheel as open as possibile...

I dig the Ex-Box, but I am afarid it isnt gonna be as loud as I would like. Is their a way to remove baffles or something from the thing ?  I also plan to lower the bike in the rear around a inch or so, so I am guessing I would have ground clearance issues with the Ex-Box correct ?

[He Man]

Exbox is not as loud as open udder. Id say exbox is an 8 and udder is a 10.

I dont know how you think your bike cant be heard with open udder. My head hurts from that shit and so does everyone i ride with. Thats why im always last and wearing the biggest fattest disposable ear plugs known to man kind.

as far as sound quality goes. The udder is more thunderous. but otherwise the exact same tone as exbox. When i ride with my friend (695 exbox) and my S2R1000 open udder, it sounds like i have 4 cylinders and offset cams.

If you ride around bumps, i wouldnt recommend lowering the bike. that thing is slung very low. I really dig the looks of hte boomtubes, but i cant get over the fart noise it makes when u decel. The xbox looks make the beast with two backsng sick and is the perfect loudness, but it sounds nearly the same as the udder, and i cant fathom paying $1100 for the same sound..

[corey]

I ride an s2r800, but am in the exact same camp as HeMan.
Love the exbox, can't justify the money because my open udder sounds sick.
Just wish it looked a little... less udder-y.

[ProTeal55]

Thanks for the advice/heads up on the Ex-Box..
Maybe it is becasue I am used to HD's with open pipes that I think my open udder isnt that loud.
The udder isnt gutted, so whatever is in there is still there (maybe why it isnt that loud?).
Dont get me wrong, the bike sounds good to me (while I am riding it) and when you are around the bike but I have had people take my bike for a rip down the street and I can honestly say you really dont hear it after a few feet away (atleast not how I want the bike to sound). I hear guys ripping around the city with full/open Termi kits and thats exactly how I want my bike to sound, just cant get myself to cover up the back wheel with a muffler...

The only other system I would consider buying would be the dual sided Zard setup in black.
That system unbaffeled is susposed to be crazy loud, and doesnt cover the back wheel all that much. But once again, I want to keep the bike looking as "light" as possibile, and those two huge cans arent going to help..

[CDawg]

exbox on a s4rs...rode open udder for ~40 miles and here are my thoughts:

How is the sound of a Ex-Box system compared to a open udder on a S2R1K ? Much more quiet.  If stock is 1 and open udder is 10 and Termis are 7...the exbox is 3 on the loudness scale

I dig the Ex-Box, but I am afarid it isnt gonna be as loud as I would like. Is their a way to remove baffles or something from the thing ?  Nope.  The above comparison is without baffles

I also plan to lower the bike in the rear around a inch or so, so I am guessing I would have ground clearance issues with the Ex-Box correct?  Not for me, but I have see pics of clearance issues at full lean on the right side

[corey]

my plan is do a custom jobber for my exhaust with some slash cut megaphones...

[Ivan]

The only other system I would consider buying would be the dual sided Zard setup in black.
That system unbaffeled is susposed to be crazy loud, and doesnt cover the back wheel all that much. But once again, I want to keep the bike looking as "light" as possibile, and those two huge cans arent going to help..

The carbon fiber Zard cans do not weigh a whole lot.

The Arrow exhaust (w/o baffles) is considerably louder than the Zard (w/o baffles) on an S2R1K.

[He Man]

Proteal, termis are not as loud the only reason you hear it is because all the sound is directed to the rear where the udder directs them to the side. The shell being metal also echos and alot of the sound gets blasted around your area.

With termis, the carbonfiber and packing absorb a lot of the sound, so whatever gets to leave, leaves pointing the rear.
Like wise, if you are on the left side of an open udder, you probably wont hear much since its all to the right.

If you built your own exbox to point to the rear, it would be just as loud as termis taking off.

[Gus Duc]

The carbon fiber Zard cans do not weigh a whole lot.

The Arrow exhaust (w/o baffles) is considerably louder than the Zard (w/o baffles) on an S2R1K.

Yeah the Zards without baffles sound fantastic....... nice & deep & not too loud I'd say somewhere around 100 db's or so.

The Arrows on the other hand are stupid loud........ like Ivan & his Zards I'm running an open airbox & a DP ECU with the full carbon Arrows & no baffles..... as good as it sounds, I feel like an A hole when I ride it around town.  Shoot.... I'm even embarassed to start it infront of my own house   One of my neighbors even had the  waiting for me as he claimed I would wake his daughter each night when I returned from work.  I do however prefer the Arrows because the front header pipe is all one piece & this system allows the most heal clearence other than an udder or ExBox.  With the rear ride height raised, the bottom can only blocks the rear tire..... rim is not blocked
http://www.flickr.com/photos/capfacsurf/3191883008/in/set-72157612489163882/

[herm]

i ran my s2r1k with the udder alone for the first 5 thousand miles.
bought the x-box because i was tired of having a headache at the end of a long ride (thats with ear plugs)
cant see how you would have clearance issues with the x box (in a lean). you're gonna scrape your rears sets long before you scrape the exhaust.

if you want loud, take a look at Nakids bike. he is running with straight pipes only off the headers....no muffler at all.
IMHO, ducs are not supposed to sound like H-D's....but thats just me.

[He Man]

cant see how you would have clearance issues with the x box (in a lean). you're gonna scrape your rears sets long before you scrape the exhaust.

try running over a pot hole.

[ProTeal55]

Thanks for all the good feedback, this is why I like this forum ! 
Both the Zard and the Arrow systems DO cover up the rear wheel. Maybe not as much as a high/mid mount Termi kit, but they still do.
I dig the ex/box becasue it leaves the back wheel open, and seems to fit Industrial/clean/tech look that these bikes have going for them.

I def. want the bike to be louder than it is now, but I also want it to sound (and more importantly run) good as well. No need to have a bike that sounds killer not
be able to get out of it's own way right ? The and more I research my options the more it looks like I am going to be buying a Zard or Arrow system. I def. want the bike to me heard for a few
blocks way rather than just be loud when you are next to he bike..

Does Arrow sell a dual sided system like Zard (one muffler on each side of the tail ?

[CDawg]

Proteal55:
Here's my bike:
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=s4rs&emb=0&aq=f#q=exbox%20s4rs&emb=0

[kopfjäger]

[ProTeal55]

It's kinda hard to hear what the exhaust really sounds like over all those dry clutches 
From what I have heard I am def. down with the way the Arrow's sound. just wish they didnt cover the back wheel as much..
But I might have to suck it up and go with them to get the sound I want..

If I were to run the arrows, would the bike run cool wihout a computer upgrade ?
I am running the open udder now wiht one of those FatDuc deal-e-o's and it runs like a champ now..