The 1911 thread

[Sinister]

I went Somali style: all make the beast with two backsed up on Khat

...and then cooked the dog for your 7 children?

[Sgt_H]

Thanks for your service, Sgt.

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[Bun-bun]

  So the 1911 and Glock are very popular since both have easy to swap barrel/magazine options, as is the German made Korth with 4 calibers swappable on the fly.  HK has only offered the P7M13 with a swappable barrel.

Either way, it's an interesting design, but far too expensive for what it offers.  Moreover, you have little or no aftermarket support, so you are stuck with the factory.



Yes and no.
Hk did offer the HK4, which was able to swap between .380(9mmkurz), .32, .25, and .22 rimfire(which is kinda neat!). But you are correct that there is no aftermarket available. I've had mine for almost twenty years now, and, except for having it reblued last year, it's been a very reliable weapon. It does take some getting used to at first, but once you train your muscle memory, it'll cock and fire as fast or faster than a more mainstream semiauto, and is very accurate.

[junior varsity]

I'm here i'm here folks, with my Kimber and the goodness of cobramags, ready to debate anyone about anything.


Sidenote:  I now have a Marvel Precision 22lr conversion for my 1911. I got the 'practical' (unit 2) because i'm on a budget here, but it sure saves me money at the range.  loads of fun too, and the fiance likes it quite a bit.

[ducatiz]

Yes and no.
Hk did offer the HK4, which was able to swap between .380(9mmkurz), .32, .25, and .22 rimfire(which is kinda neat!). But you are correct that there is no aftermarket available. I've had mine for almost twenty years now, and, except for having it reblued last year, it's been a very reliable weapon. It does take some getting used to at first, but once you train your muscle memory, it'll cock and fire as fast or faster than a more mainstream semiauto, and is very accurate.

you mean yes and yes.

the HK4 is a fundamentally different pistol from the HKP7.  this wasn't a discussion of HK in general.

I also have an HK4 and have never met someone else with one.  I have the 22 kit and the 32 kit, I haven't seen the 9mm kurz or 25 setup anywhere.

[rgramjet]

I did a sweep of the house with my M4 last night.

Thought we heard something downstairs.


Turned out to be Greta banging her chewtoy around in the crate.

Cyrus, good to see you in these parts.  Which M4 do you have?  Ive been checking out the Rock River.  Also been drooling over the PS90....

[jimboecv]

  What would fail for this to happen?

Loaded chamber, hammer down.  The most risky and stupid way to carry a 1911.  Gun falls but first, lands on hammer which lets the hammer fall that tiny little bit of slack and BANG.  Plus, it's useless; single action. 
Also, could have happend the way ash mentioned.  But to hit him in the heart, the gun would have to be pointing up, so the inertia of the f.p. would have been in the opposite direction.

Either way, that's some crazy shit.  What are the odds of all those things happening AND it hitting you in an area that small with the whole world to hit instead? 

[jimboecv]

OR. . .
Just ditch the century old technology, and pick up an H&K P-7.

P-7 is a bad ass weapon.  Major muscle function then nice consistant trigger.  Small, slim, smooth.  Good choice. (no lead, though).

[jimboecv]

...and HK has struggled with its sales. 

... as is the German made Korth...

Very few people even know of the P-7 series.  I think what killed it was the price from the get go was $1000 and that was years ago.  I think the shop I worked in sold them for $1200 or so.  Very expensive to make, for sure.

Korth's are beautiful.

[jimboecv]

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+1

[Bun-bun]

I have a 1971 HK4 presentation model with the .380 and .22 barrels, in the boxes, unfired, with the test target and cleaning kit as supplied from the factory.
This was one of 100 that Hk sold to Harrington and Richardson for their 100th anniversary, and has the gold plate plaques on the sides .
You are right, the HK4 is not a squeeze cocker.
Jeff

[legrena]

Favorite gun ever.

[95Monster]

For lunch, I tossed a 100 rounds of .45acp down range with my Colt 1991A1 interspersed with 150 rounds of .22LR with my Ruger MKII.  Grabbed a chili dog on the way back to the office.

I feel better.  Think I'll leave early...

George

[hbliam]

1911's that you plan to use should be carried and stored cocked and locked. Any other way and all you have is an ammunition storage device. Leave the rack and fire method for the next episode of Miami Vice. Shotguns are different. The racking of the slide is a VERY useful part of the program. Kinda like the laser on a taser. It's not needed for aiming but usually intimidates the suspect into compliance.

[ducatiz]

very useful in a mall security context   

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