The 1911 thread

[cduarte]

here's my favorite 1911. It's a Colt National Match made in 1957. It's extremely accurate, and I paid $500 for it.

[ducatiz]

since when do they require a new serial?

it's been about 4-5 years that the new depth/size and importation rules were effected.  i will try to find a link.  the long and short is that around 2002, ATF changed the rules so all firearms had to have serial numbers prominently placed on the receiver and no less than 0.003" deep and 1/16" tall.  plenty of milsurp guns have far smaller serial numbers (such as ALL the russian and most european milsurp rifles and pistols, plus many of the com-bloc stuff has cyrillic character original serials...).  thus, ATF ruled that where there are non-Roman characters or the original numbers are not 0.003" deep and/or 1/16" tall, the importer has to issue a new unique number composed of roman letter and numbers only. 

that's why all of those Century/CAI rifles have that big-ass digital serial # on them now. 

**edit

ok found it..

27 CFR @478.92, went into effect Jan 30, 2002.  Longer than I remembered

[Kopfjäger]

http://www.stiguns.com/USPress/Gun&Ammo/Comp1911/Comp1911-05p1.html

[grandpa nate]

http://www.stiguns.com/USPress/Gun&Ammo/Comp1911/Comp1911-05p1.html

[hbliam]

I'll stick with my Wilson Combat.

and why do all these high end gun makers (Wilson inc) only send you one magazine with your $2,000 gun?

[Kopfjäger]

I'll stick with my Wilson Combat.

and why do all these high end gun makers (Wilson inc) only send you one magazine with your $2,000 gun?

You'll have to ask them that question.

The Wilson Combat is a nice gun, but it ain't no STI. 

[ducatiz]

Because they want you to buy another one from them.

John Masen has good mags if you need them.

[hbliam]

Because they want you to buy another one from them.

John Masen has good mags if you need them.

It was a rhetorical question...

and I have about 15 WC Mags.

[hbliam]

The Wilson Combat is a nice gun, but it ain't no STI. 

Damn right it's not.  I wanted a 1911. Not a 2011 or a target shooter.

[Kopfjäger]

Damn right it's not.  I wanted a 1911. Not a 2011 or a target shooter.

Yeah, You wouldn't want to try a better version of a product.

[hbliam]

Yeah, You wouldn't want to try a better version of a product.

Subjective.

[cduarte]

Damn right it's not.  I wanted a 1911. Not a 2011 or a target shooter.

if you wanted a 1911, why didn't you get a colt?

[hbliam]

if you wanted a 1911, why didn't you get a colt?

touche 

[ducatiz]

if you wanted a 1911, why didn't you get a colt?

well, or a Remington-Rand, or Springfield, or Ithaca or a Union Switch, etc..

I think Remington-Rand made 3 times as many wartime 1911s than Colt did. 

I picked up a Norinco 1911 ages ago, they are extremely popular with the race gun competitions, and this one is a near exact copy of the US version -- hand finished just like the originals..  not as nice, but still an interesting take.

Actually, the nicest 1911 I have is made by PAC from Phillipines.  It was an impulse purchase but the finish is top notch.  I had the sear and safety reworked because they were iffy (hammer would drop to half cock when cocked and safety on).. now it works perfectly and it is a perfect carry.  I think I dropped $300 on it, new.. That was about 10 years ago tho.

[Monsterlover]

I found out a little more about the Argentine made 1911 my friends dad has f/s

I was thinking it was a Ballester Molina which really only shares the mags and (I think) the barrel with the 1911. It also lacks the grip safety.

This gun has the grip safety and is identical with the colt made 1911. It's apparently in good shape with rose wood grips and has had a trigger job.

Anything I should look for when I go look at it?  Keep in mind this is my first pistol. He wants $400 for it.