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Routinely unable to access first gear -- FIXED!!

Started by DucHead, February 09, 2009, 03:03:25 PM

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krista

#30
February 16, 2009, 03:08:27 PM
Quote from: pompetta on February 15, 2009, 05:56:59 PM
Yeah that looks nice.  I think I'll order one plus a spare.  Do I also use the "gasket in a tube" stuff in addition to the fiber gasket?

No, I use them plain. Even after a couple years in service, I have yet to have one of these tear. This is one of my favorite products.
Krista Kelley ... autist formerly known as chris
official nerd for ca-cycleworks.com

DucHead

#31
February 16, 2009, 03:15:55 PM
Quote from: chris on February 16, 2009, 03:08:27 PM
No, I use them plain. Even after a couple years in service, I have yet to have one of these tear. This is one of my favorite products.

Thanks Chris.  I ordered both the alternator and clutch side gaskets last night.
'05 S4R (>47k mi); '04 Bandit 1200 (>92k mi; sold); '02 Bandit 1200 (>11k mi); '97 Bandit 1200 (2k mi); '13 FJR1300 (1k mi); IBA #28454 "45"

Rameses

#32
February 19, 2009, 08:59:38 PM
Quote from: pompetta on February 10, 2009, 04:17:17 AM
The bike has never been down, but there is wear in the shifter hole through which the bolt that attaches it to the rearsets goes.  Consequently, there is a small amount of lateral play in the shifter. 

Would lateral play in the shifter cause problems downshifting to first gear only?



Is it possible that the lateral play in the shift lever is robbing it of some of its rotational movement?

If that's the case, maybe the shift drum requires just a hair more rotation to downshift into first than it does for the other gears.

When there's no lateral deflection of the shift lever, no problem downshifting to first and when there is deflection, no downshift?


DucHead

#33
February 20, 2009, 05:03:04 AM
Quote from: Rameses on February 19, 2009, 08:59:38 PM
...When there's no lateral deflection of the shift lever, no problem downshifting to first and when there is deflection, no downshift?

I can't test "no deflection" right now 'cause the alternator cover is off.  I moved the shift fork back 1mm and tomorrow I'm putting the cover back on, but I can't ride the bike 'cause I'm waiting for that make the beast with two backsin' seal on the clutch-side cover.   :-\
'05 S4R (>47k mi); '04 Bandit 1200 (>92k mi; sold); '02 Bandit 1200 (>11k mi); '97 Bandit 1200 (2k mi); '13 FJR1300 (1k mi); IBA #28454 "45"

Rameses

#34
February 20, 2009, 07:04:11 AM
Quote from: pompetta on February 20, 2009, 05:03:04 AM
...'cause I'm waiting for that make the beast with two backsin' seal on the clutch-side cover.   :-\



But at least it's comin' from Chris Kelley so you know it'll be there quickly.   ;)

DucHead

#35
February 20, 2009, 08:18:26 AM
Quote from: Rameses on February 20, 2009, 07:04:11 AM


But at least it's comin' from Chris Kelley so you know it'll be there quickly.   ;)

I bought gaskets from Chris -- they arrived yesterday by USPS.  The oil seal is for the oil feed into the crank.  The one I need is for the testastretta motor (I bought a used case of eBay), and I ordered it from Barnetts.
'05 S4R (>47k mi); '04 Bandit 1200 (>92k mi; sold); '02 Bandit 1200 (>11k mi); '97 Bandit 1200 (2k mi); '13 FJR1300 (1k mi); IBA #28454 "45"

Rameses

#36
February 20, 2009, 08:26:17 AM
Quote from: pompetta on February 20, 2009, 08:18:26 AM
I bought gaskets from Chris -- they arrived yesterday by USPS.  The oil seal is for the oil feed into the crank.  The one I need is for the testastretta motor (I bought a used case of eBay), and I ordered it from Barnetts.


From Barnett's?   :o

You might be hosed.

Why didn't you order it from Ducati Seattle??

DucHead

#37
February 20, 2009, 08:30:03 AM
Quote from: Rameses on February 20, 2009, 08:26:17 AM

From Barnett's?   :o

You might be hosed.

Why didn't you order it from Ducati Seattle??

Ducati parts I order from Barnetts arrive within 5 days.

Last week I ordered a few bearings on Monday, and they arrived on Wednesday afternoon -- TWO days, and no shipping charge.

UPS ground from Washington state takes a week.
'05 S4R (>47k mi); '04 Bandit 1200 (>92k mi; sold); '02 Bandit 1200 (>11k mi); '97 Bandit 1200 (2k mi); '13 FJR1300 (1k mi); IBA #28454 "45"

Rameses

#38
February 20, 2009, 01:48:51 PM
Quote from: pompetta on February 20, 2009, 08:30:03 AM
Ducati parts I order from Barnetts arrive within 5 days.

Last week I ordered a few bearings on Monday, and they arrived on Wednesday afternoon -- TWO days, and no shipping charge.

UPS ground from Washington state takes a week.


A couple extra days and a shipping charge is worth it considering there's no sales tax, a 10% discount, it comes to my front door, and I don't have to deal with the guys at Barnett's.   ;)

(Not to mention I know I'm going to get the right part when I order from Ducati Seattle.)

DucHead

#39
March 04, 2009, 04:23:36 PM Last Edit: March 04, 2009, 04:27:47 PM by pompetta
So, the shifting problem is fixed.  Even though I have to fix a leaky oil sight glass after removing the case cover for powercoating and re-using the original sight glass, ( [roll] )  the bike runs great.

The problem was due to one or both of the following:
1) adjustment was needed in the shifter fork;
2) the Cycle Cat shifter lever had no brass bushing and the hole was worn so as to create a lot of lateral play in the shifter lever.

Both Speeddog and the local tech recommended moving the shifter fork rearward 1 or 2mm and I did.

I also drilled/filed out the Cycle Cat shifter lever hole to accept an OEM Ducati brass bushing.  When bolted up, there is very little play in the lever.

It now shifts like new!!  ;D


Quote from: Rameses on February 20, 2009, 08:26:17 AM
From Barnett's?   :o
You might be hosed...

The oil seal arrived in 3 days.  ;)
'05 S4R (>47k mi); '04 Bandit 1200 (>92k mi; sold); '02 Bandit 1200 (>11k mi); '97 Bandit 1200 (2k mi); '13 FJR1300 (1k mi); IBA #28454 "45"

Speeddog

#40
March 04, 2009, 04:31:12 PM
Glad you got it sorted!  :)
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DucHead

#41
March 04, 2009, 04:33:05 PM
Quote from: Speeddog on March 04, 2009, 04:31:12 PM
Glad you got it sorted!  :)

Once again, with your help!  :)   [beer]
'05 S4R (>47k mi); '04 Bandit 1200 (>92k mi; sold); '02 Bandit 1200 (>11k mi); '97 Bandit 1200 (2k mi); '13 FJR1300 (1k mi); IBA #28454 "45"

Rob Hilding

#42
March 04, 2009, 07:04:20 PM
Glad you got it fixed - this is a GOOD place, the DMF

I like following a complete thread like this one to a happy ending (cue the smartass remarks!) ;)
Desmosedici - it's the new Paso (except the bodywork doesn't fit as well)

DucHead

#43
March 04, 2009, 07:32:26 PM
Quote from: bozcoRob on March 04, 2009, 07:04:20 PM
Glad you got it fixed - this is a GOOD place, the DMF

I like following a complete thread like this one to a happy ending (cue the smartass remarks!) ;)

I just hope that with a few more years experience, I'll be as useful to others as a few here have been to me.   [thumbsup]   [moto]
'05 S4R (>47k mi); '04 Bandit 1200 (>92k mi; sold); '02 Bandit 1200 (>11k mi); '97 Bandit 1200 (2k mi); '13 FJR1300 (1k mi); IBA #28454 "45"

Jobu

#44
March 04, 2009, 11:51:54 PM
Quote from: pompetta on March 04, 2009, 07:32:26 PM
I just hope that with a few more years experience, I'll be as useful to others as a few here have been to me.   [thumbsup]   [moto]

Or, you could be some others and whine about how your Duc keeps breaking.   [roll]  (not pointing to anyone in this thread, though).

Glad you got it sorted out.  My Cycle Cat lever has a fair amount of play, but I've yet to have a problem down-shifting.
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