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« on: February 21, 2009, 04:34:50 PM »

What is this you ask? Why...its half a frame to a oven!
Oven for what? POWDER COAT!!!!
What can it fit? WHEELS!!! ENGINES!!!! METAL GAS TANKS! and with some mods..A FRAME!!!

"But havent you burned your camera...your bicep...your ankle...."
Yes, and to add to that list will be this oven on some part of my body.
"Wait what is it powered by? I heard you shouldnt use a gas oven since the fumes can blow up."
Its powered by PROPANE!!! Yes that is a type of GAS OVEN!!!!
"Are you crazy?"
It has been suggested.

Just to note, i was picking up a piece of 20guage stainless steel and it  had a small strand of metal shard sticking out and found its way latteraly 1/2" through my finger. Its already tried to kill me. But not to worry....im to lazy to rip the protective sticker of it, im just gonna flame thrower the whole thing to melt the plastic off.  Evil

Now the question becomes..Eastwood powdercoat gun? or harbor freight Chicago powdercoat gun? I got 4 wheels, 2 sets of rear sets a swing arm and a bunch of tools to PC. =)



Everything was made from scrap parts so total cost is still $0.00, the only thing thats gonna run me money is the fan that is will be blowing the propane heated air into the body of hte oven.
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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2009, 05:26:21 PM »

Cool (!) project! waytogo
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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2009, 07:42:24 PM »

Make sure that fan can handle 400 degrees....
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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2009, 08:58:50 PM »

Make sure that fan can handle 400 degrees....

It sure will im ebaying some convection fans for home ovens, but im fearful they will spin too fast. I doubt the fan blades will see close to that temp. maybe 200 at most. Im designing the fan on the outside blowing cold air over the flame.  you can put your hand 5 inches laterally from the flame and not feel much, but five inches above it and it will toast you. once i get the heating part done (im still undecided if i should just make my own, or just pull one out of a used stove) ill calibrate the height of the burners and the distance to the fan for optimal temperature control.
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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2009, 09:55:01 PM »

just plain ol cool
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« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2009, 11:19:28 AM »

just plain ol cool

 Don't you mean hot?
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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2009, 07:42:32 PM »

i have used the Eastwood gun for about two years now with great success. Surface prep is key, and if i didn't mention it before surface prep is key! Using good powder like tiger drylac(sp?) will help. Your oven will be great just be sure that the heat is pretty even throughout. And there is no strong air current blowing your powder off of what you are trying to cure.
On a side note, i have heard of guys taking old baker ovens apart or multiple home ovens to reuse the heating elements.
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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2009, 07:54:19 PM »

i have used the Eastwood gun for about two years now with great success. Surface prep is key, and if i didn't mention it before surface prep is key! Using good powder like tiger drylac(sp?) will help. Your oven will be great just be sure that the heat is pretty even throughout. And there is no strong air current blowing your powder off of what you are trying to cure.
On a side note, i have heard of guys taking old baker ovens apart or multiple home ovens to reuse the heating elements.

Eastwood it is! Ive been looking at powders from caswell. I cant seem to find the right powder to match that pearl white/ with gold rims S4Rs.
any idea where i can find?

I tinkered with the idea of an electric oven, but for the size of this ting, I would need 3 heating elements, and I dont have the wires to pull those kind of amps. The 3500watt elements pull 14amps per, thats 42 amps sustained for a durated amount of time. I dont feel like having an electical fire due to over heating wires. ontop of which, id have to run my own 220 connection since most ovens in homes (NYC) are gas here.

What kind of oven do you have? Homemade or bought? I ran out of sheet metal 1/4 way in, and while one side looks nice the rest is litteraly held together by what ever sheets of metal i could find (it looks VERY ugly) nothing an angle grinder and some spray paint cant fix though! So because of this, im not sure how much of a flame i need to heat it up to 400. Gonna need to do some test....hopefully it will be good enough for sustained powder coating, maybe even pick up some local jobs to cover the cost of the gun. Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2009, 08:36:27 PM »

A cool project for sure, but I can't help wondering if cooking a turkey or a pizza in there would ruin it for powdercoating...
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« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2009, 08:38:46 PM »

A cool project for sure, but I can't help wondering if cooking a turkey or a pizza in there would ruin it for powdercoating...

How do you think im gonna test it?
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« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2009, 02:53:13 PM »

the way to achieve that pearl will be just like painting, put your base down, bake then clear with the pearl, bake. BUT....i would say an exact match will not be achieved, so make sure you experiment on scrap first. I haven't seen pearl clear, bu i have seen clear with sparkles in it....we call it Stripper Glitter!

and i have a regular house oven not large enough for wheels, frames or forks.
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« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2009, 03:01:45 PM »

WHat do you think i could use as a base?

The way i look at it. a pearl gold is translucent so instead of having a highly reflective base coat i could jsut polish my wheels and throw the gold translucent right on top!
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2009, 12:16:09 PM »

your base would be what ever color is to be behind the pearl. If you are looking to match the pearl white tank, you would use white as your base, then a pearl clear. Keep in mined that some clears will yellow a bit when they cure. Just be sure to run a test.

OK, i reread your post, so i think you want gold, your base coat will not be highly reflective, unless you have some type of powder that i haven't seen...possible. If you are going to polish your wheels, and coat them with a translucent clear, it will dull the polished wheels slightly. Powder Coating hasn't reached the high gloss level of automotive paint yet, it is getting close but just not there yet. The nice thing is that no primer is required for PC to adhere to metal.
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« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2009, 06:24:41 PM »

gold is the target color, but im running into issues with PCing the wheels.

regardless, how many coats can that eastwood gun do before it becoems too weak?
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« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2009, 07:08:50 PM »

If you are using propane you can just pick up the burners from the grilling sectino of Home Despot.  Then use the controls of a regular grill.  At any given elevation in the over, the temperature should be pretty consistent.  And so long as you seal it up, that should hold it.  in fact....  Have you considered just using a steel drum (barrel) on it's side cut in half so you can lift off or hinge off the upper half?  That'd be plenty bid for a frame, and already built pretty much...  And with a few burners in it out of propane grills and the normal grill style control for each burner, you could theoretically even control the stove heat sectionally to an extent....  just a thought
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