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DesmoDiva

#130500
July 08, 2013, 04:09:14 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on July 08, 2013, 02:46:37 PM
Just a little...

Yup...1x4 furring screwed into the studs.

So the screws pierce the ice and water shield?

Do you have any support at the bottom of the wall to prevent the weight of the siding from "pulling" the furring strips/screws down?


Breakfast for dinner was a hit.   [thumbsup]
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DarkMonster620

#130501
July 08, 2013, 04:31:38 PM
Quote from: DesmoDiva on July 08, 2013, 04:09:14 PM
So the screws pierce the ice and water shield?

Do you have any support at the bottom of the wall to prevent the weight of the siding from "pulling" the furring strips/screws down?


Breakfast for dinner was a hit.   [thumbsup]

I had dinner alone . ..  went to a place that "serves breakfast all day long" . .. so nice to have a liver steak with fried eggs on top . .
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ducpainter

#130502
July 08, 2013, 04:38:55 PM
Quote from: DesmoDiva on July 08, 2013, 04:09:14 PM
So the screws pierce the ice and water shield?

Do you have any support at the bottom of the wall to prevent the weight of the siding from "pulling" the furring strips/screws down?


Breakfast for dinner was a hit.   [thumbsup]
There is self sealing sheathing tape covering each stud, so yes.

No...no way to accomplish that. If you look closely the overhangs are attached to the furring on the roof and act like a box beam/header.  The screws are 1/4" dia.

The siding on the east wall has been in place for a year now and hasn't moved a bit. The lightweight composite siding reduces the weight considerably from both solid wood or fiber cement and is the reason I chose it.

Stop thinking like an architect...it will be fine.  :-* ;D
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ungeheuer

#130503
July 08, 2013, 04:43:56 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on July 08, 2013, 04:38:55 PM
No...no way to accomplish that.
You could screw a 1"x4" horizontal support plate along and attached to the bottom end of the "furring" strips  ;)
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ducpainter

#130504
July 08, 2013, 04:48:18 PM
Quote from: ungeheuer on July 08, 2013, 04:43:56 PM
You could screw a 1"x4" horizontal support plate along and attached to the bottom end of the "furring" strips  ;)
What is going to prevent the screws attaching the horizontal support from sagging?

This system has been in place for years used in reno's in Alaska.

Friggen engineers... [roll] :-*
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 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
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ungeheuer

#130505
July 08, 2013, 04:51:22 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on July 08, 2013, 04:48:18 PMWhat is going to prevent the screws attaching the horizontal support from sagging?
The vertical furring strips will support it  ;)

Relax.

I make joke  ;D.



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ducpainter

#130506
July 08, 2013, 04:53:42 PM
Quote from: ungeheuer on July 08, 2013, 04:51:22 PM
The vertical furring strips will support it  ;)

Relax.

I make joke  ;D.




I'd relax more...

but I might tip over. ;D
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


DarkMonster620

#130507
July 08, 2013, 05:07:51 PM
got my Contour Roam video camera, setting it up as I write . ..  is a first gen model, got it at an excellent price even with accessories and shipping under retail price . . .
Carlos
I said I was smart, never that I had my shit together
Quote from: ducatiz on March 27, 2014, 08:34:34 AMDucati is the pretty girl that can't walk in heels without stumbling. I still love her.
"When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

DesmoDiva

#130508
July 08, 2013, 05:37:34 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on July 08, 2013, 04:38:55 PM
Stop thinking like an architect...it will be fine.  :-* ;D

;D

I only ask cause we are thinking of doing something similar on our new house.

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ducpainter

#130509
July 08, 2013, 05:49:06 PM
Quote from: DesmoDiva on July 08, 2013, 05:37:34 PM
;D

I only ask cause we are thinking of doing something similar on our new house.


FWIW...

I took B's advice re: the tape on the studs.

They don't use it on the REMOTE system typically.

Penetrations through the envelope are impossible to avoid.

You just have to do the best you can to avoid leakage.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


DesmoDiva

#130510
July 08, 2013, 05:53:19 PM
Yup.

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ducpainter

#130511
July 08, 2013, 06:00:37 PM
I really believe the insulation thickness is the determining factor to eliminate leakage.

If you don't have condensation it can't leak.

There is a ton of data here... http://www.cchrc.org/remote-walls

I used it to make my decisions regarding insulation thickness. They use more in AK due to winter temps.

It will have to get -40F for the backside of the inso to get below the dew point in NH.

If it gets that cold here were all make the beast with two backsed. ;)
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


DesmoDiva

#130512
July 08, 2013, 06:04:17 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on July 08, 2013, 06:00:37 PM
If it gets that cold here were all make the beast with two backsed. ;)

For sure.

Thanks for the link. 
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ducpainter

#130513
July 08, 2013, 06:07:20 PM
Quote from: DesmoDiva on July 08, 2013, 06:04:17 PM
For sure.

Thanks for the link. 
You probably know this, but eps is a better insulator at low temps than xps... the inverse is true above 70 F.

every fraction of R value counts.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


brimo

#130514
July 09, 2013, 01:07:32 AM
Just back from the dermatologist, got a few keratoses zapped with liquid nitrogen, didn't hurt a bit, until 10 minutes later. Now it feels like someone has stubbed their cigarette out on my face in about 5 different spots, owww, farrrk! I think I might need a medicinal ale or two.
"The make the beast with two backsin monkey started it..."

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