Open Dry Clutch - Sound seems, uh, unhealthy.

[bryan8494]

for really?? damn it....hey how difficult is it to rewire the crap attached on boths side under the seat of the monster 695?  anyone got diagrams that would be cool...thanks again

[Buckethead]

for really?? damn it....hey how difficult is it to rewire the crap attached on boths side under the seat of the monster 695?  anyone got diagrams that would be cool...thanks again

For REAL for real.

You mean the stuff under the side panels? Its not hard. Its just a matter of finding places to put them. Of course, then you're left with the brackets and stuff.

[Slide Panda]

Thanks again for all the responses.

Kevin

I spy with my little eye reflectors!  Give 'em the chop.

To the best of my knowledge, the 695 has a wet multiplate system.

That is correct.  Any Monster below 900cc will be a wet clutch. 

[Mike_D]

That's a nice looking S2R you have there Kevin.  Thanks for posting the pic.

[Mojo S2R]

nice pic...i'm thinking to do the same for my monster 695.  a quick question, for now could i take off the black plastic covers that cover the clutch on each side?  thanks.

The 695 is a wet clutch.  Can't run it without clutch cover.  I'm guessing that you are talking about the timing belt covers.  Their plastic.  The clutch cover is metal.  A lot of people run their bikes without timing belt covers or with open covers.

[bryan8494]

The 695 is a wet clutch.  Can't run it without clutch cover.  I'm guessing that you are talking about the timing belt covers.  Their plastic.  The clutch cover is metal.  A lot of people run their bikes without timing belt covers or with open covers.

Yep, it's the thin layer of black plastic on both sides, i can remove them right?

[Slide Panda]

No.  There is no thin black plastic on both sides.  Perhaps you're mistaking the powder coating used on the clutch and alternator covers for plastic.  On a stock 695 you cannot expose any of the clutch works and run the engine w/o be very very unhappy you did.

The only plastic bit in that area you could safely remove is the cam belt covers.  They are the 2 -part covers in an L configuration.  They are on the right side of the bike.

[kfmarshall]

I spy with my little eye reflectors!  Give 'em the chop.

Thanks yuu, I will do so immediately. 

[Slide Panda]

Thanks yuu, I will do so immediately. 

NP - just saving you from the reflector ragging that goes on here.  If you want the ugly yellow plastics off, but still want somethign reflective TapeWorks makes reflective wheel tapes in all sorts of colors

http://www.tapeworks.com/Rimstripes/RimstripesHome.html

[Smokescreen]

for really?? damn it....hey how difficult is it to rewire the crap attached on boths side under the seat of the monster 695?  anyone got diagrams that would be cool...thanks again

i'm not positive how mechanically inclined you are, but I've heard reports of wet clutch owners converting by replacing the clutch side case cover with an M900 cover and replacing the wet clutch assembly with a dry clutch assembly. 

The benefits are, you get a dry clutch rattle!! yay!

The drawbacks are, you get a dry clutch, that's harder to modulate, has a harder lever pull, wears out faster, and therefor costs more...  Even after the roughly $1000 you'd be spending buying a used right hand case cover, all new seals on that side, and new clutch assembly. 

So......  You might want to stick to set clutchness.  Ducati thinks it's a better idea.  the 848 has a wet clutch now, as does the Multi1K. 

I THINK there is an aftermarket clutch-side case cover that has some kind of clear plastic where the clutch is so you can see it spinning round and tossing oil everywhere, if that interests you.  Wouldn't be any louder, but it'd be pretty!

[Slide Panda]

i'm not positive how mechanically inclined you are, but I've heard reports of wet clutch owners converting by replacing the clutch side case cover with an M900 cover and replacing the wet clutch assembly with a dry clutch assembly. 

The benefits are, you get a dry clutch rattle!! yay!

The drawbacks are, you get a dry clutch, that's harder to modulate, has a harder lever pull, wears out faster, and therefor costs more...  Even after the roughly $1000 you'd be spending buying a used right hand case cover, all new seals on that side, and new clutch assembly. 


I THINK there is an aftermarket clutch-side case cover that has some kind of clear plastic where the clutch is so you can see it spinning round and tossing oil everywhere, if that interests you.  Wouldn't be any louder, but it'd be pretty!

Yeah - it is possible to work over a wet clutch monster into a dry one.  But smokescreen's right - it's costy.  There's a large expense for parts and possible even more for labor.  It isn't just a straight swap - pull off the old, put on the new.  There need for some modifications and machining.  People have done it.. but the price is equal to a pretty good down payment on your next bike

I've seen clutch covers for wet clutch Jap bikes that have that window... but I don't think I've spotted one for Ducs so far.

[bryan8494]

i'm not positive how mechanically inclined you are, but I've heard reports of wet clutch owners converting by replacing the clutch side case cover with an M900 cover and replacing the wet clutch assembly with a dry clutch assembly. 

The benefits are, you get a dry clutch rattle!! yay!

The drawbacks are, you get a dry clutch, that's harder to modulate, has a harder lever pull, wears out faster, and therefor costs more...  Even after the roughly $1000 you'd be spending buying a used right hand case cover, all new seals on that side, and new clutch assembly. 

So......  You might want to stick to set clutchness.  Ducati thinks it's a better idea.  the 848 has a wet clutch now, as does the Multi1K. 

I THINK there is an aftermarket clutch-side case cover that has some kind of clear plastic where the clutch is so you can see it spinning round and tossing oil everywhere, if that interests you.  Wouldn't be any louder, but it'd be pretty!

thanks smoke!

[greenmonster]

Another (boring, ) fact:
Original clutch cover can take a 70 km/h lowsider w/o damage to clutch.

[bryan8494]

just to make sure we're talking about the same thing....below is the link to a 695, so i can't take the black covering panel over the clutch off?? 

http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/photos/2007models/2007-Ducati-Monster695d.jpg

[alexisonfire]

just to make sure we're talking about the same thing....below is the link to a 695, so i can't take the black covering panel over the clutch off?? 

http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/photos/2007models/2007-Ducati-Monster695d.jpg

I'm not sure you know where or what the clutch is period.  My advice is not to touch anything.  Get a half competent individual to show and explain these things to you in person.  I'm sure there are Ducati / motorcycle meets in your area.  Maybe a board member will mark up a picture or provide you with an explosion view diagram.