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« on: March 15, 2009, 10:15:13 AM »

It's almost done.  Got the wheels on yesterday only to discover something is amiss with my math. (Or maybe I forgot how to read a caliper  Undecided)  I need to recalculate and re-machine.





I'm also re-thinking the wheel adaption.  I realized yesterday when I got it all together that I could simply make a 25mm axle with the same threads as a 20mm one and it would all work with the simple addition of a 25mm-30mm sleeve to fix the spacing on the right side of the wheel. 

The problem is that with all the adpators in place, everything fits fine, but I can't get anywhere near the 70Nm of torque on the axle bolt without putting an unacceptable load on the bearing.  Apparently, it's due to the fact that the speedo drive for the 25mm axle is a few mm thinner than the same for the 20mm axle.  I also need to machine a speedo drive flange for the Alpina wheel.  I thought I could make an OEM one work, but I can't.

Full mod report coming, as soon as it's running on the road.  waytogo 
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« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2009, 12:17:53 PM »

NICE!  no...scratch that.  VERY, VERY NICELY DONE!!!  waytogo waytogo waytogo bacon

So, it that a '98 or a '99 M900?!?
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« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2009, 01:00:22 PM »

No offense meant, but what exactly makes that a "Scrambler"?
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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2009, 01:11:14 PM »

No offense meant, but what exactly makes that a "Scrambler"?

+1. It looks good, is quite yellow, but I don't see the Scrambler part. Other than if you mean "scrambler" like scrambled eggs, which are also yellow.
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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2009, 01:16:35 PM »

No offense meant, but what exactly makes that a "Scrambler"?



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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2009, 01:31:15 PM »

Looks like we need some semi-knobbies then.

There are some great pics here: http://www.ducati.com/heritage/anni60/scrambler/scrambler.jhtml
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« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2009, 02:54:25 PM »

Looks like we need some semi-knobbies then.



That's kinda what I was getting at. When I think scrambler, I think of something just a little less than a dual sport. Something meant for dirt roads, but nothing more treacherous than that...
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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2009, 07:32:12 PM »

scrambler - because when cops be comming, you be going.
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« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2009, 08:35:25 PM »

scrambler - because when cops be comming, you be going.
Grin   waytogo
No offense meant, but what exactly makes that a "Scrambler"?

What's in a name, right.

When I was looking for inspiration, I looked to my '69. 

I like the design, so I followed that direction. IMO, this is every bit the scrambler that a Multi is a "dual-sport."  And FWIW, my '69 has Michelin Macadam 50s on it and I'm sure both will do dirt roads just fine.


The Triumph certainly does.

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« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2009, 08:44:39 PM »

NICE!  no...scratch that.  VERY, VERY NICELY DONE!!!  waytogo waytogo waytogo bacon

So, it that a '98 or a '99 M900?!?

'99
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« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2009, 09:11:24 PM »

'99

Thought so... but wasn't 100% sure.
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« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2009, 09:08:36 AM »

Looks great! waytogo

I`d like to see it w/out the fairing.
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« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2009, 09:13:33 AM »

Can you post what all has been done? As I am looking I see:
Paint Job
Wheels
Plug Wires
Sprocket Cover
Seat
Front Signals (My 99 came with square signals, those look different)
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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2009, 09:03:29 AM »

Can you post what all has been done?

Sure, I'm going to do a full write up when I get finished, but here's a start"

>As I am looking I see:
>Paint Job

Ducpainter did a fantastic job, as usual.  Original Scrambler tanks are chrome plated, then painted, but apparently that's a lost art.  No one I talked to, including DP, had confidence that we would have good results.  Second choice, which we felt more comfortable with, was to use a new KustomKolor  "Chrome" paint.  It was a bit of a learning curve for DP, and to his credit I think he took 3 tries before he achieved a result he liked, but the "proof is in the pudding."  One thing I really like is the "chrome" finish looks more like a polished alloy than chrome.
The rest of the paint scheme just follows what was done to the '70-'73(?) 450 Scramblers.  (Which, is so happens, is one cylinder's worth of my 900cc twin,)  A thin black stripe down the fender and tank.   The stickers used are, likewise, from a circa 1970 Duc, including the "Thoroghbred of Motorcycles" sticker on the tank.

>Wheels

I bought a set of Alpina Asystem tubeless wires from Jeff at Monster Parts.  They are for the later 25 mm axles so much of the project has been devoted to making that work.  I had a set of spacers made to adapt my 20 mm axle to 25mm, but once I put it together, I realized there was an easier way.  (Part of my inspiration for doing this was to discover an easy way to adapt modern wheels to older bikes, as older wheels are getting increasingly difficult to find.  My first choice, for instance, Marvic Piumas, would have been a six month wait, IF Marvic ever decided to make another production run)  That easier way to to have a new axle machined that is 25mm from the left side up to the speedo drive, with a spacer made to locate the wheel's center between the right fork leg and the wheel bearing, then stepped down to 20mm  for the speedo drive and threaded to use the OEM threaded insert in the left fork leg.  Alternatively, we may make a single 25 axle and use one of TPO's ti bolts on both sides, with a 25mm X 30mm spacer locating the right side, and a >2000 speedo drive and spacer on the left.  (This sounds way more complicated than it is.  If you've spent much time taking the front wheel on and off, I think it makes sense.)

>Plug Wires

Simple, they came with the DynaCoils from Chris at CA Cycleworks, as did the FCRs.  I'm running UNI pods with the FCRs and eliminated the entire airbox.

>Sprocket Cover

Ti, ebay.  Bought it with the sprocket cover.  I don't know the brand, but I think I saw it on MonsterParts, too.

>Seat

It's a Corbin that came with the bike (I bought the bike used last year, with 3000 miles. Grin)


>Front Signals (My 99 came with square signals, those look different)

I suffered a low-speed gravity storm when a right turning truck stopped and the last second in front of my and I grabbed a bit too much brake for the gravel in the corner.  Bent the bars, dented the tank, and broke the right side mirror and turn signal.  The mirror and bars are from my other trellis-framed Italian beauty.  I swapped them out for LEDs so I had them laying around.

The lights are just OEM types from the same manufacturer of the ducati ones, just a different style.  They make about twenty.   THe mirrors are OEM Rizoma's, as is all the hardware on the Vun.

Looks great! waytogo

I`d like to see it w/out the fairing.

You know, while Ducpainter had the bodywork, I ran it without the hugger, fairing, and with a CF front fender.  I really like the look of the only "color" being high, and everything low being dark, which kind of focuses your attention away from them.  To be honest, it looks tits "street tracker" style with no fender, headlight, fairing, and hugger.  It's pretty dirty though, and hell in a rainstorm.   EmbarrassedO

Obviously, while I had DP painting, I had him paint it all, but when I find a smoking deal on a CF hugger, I'm going to try that look.  I'm also going to rattle can my OEM side panels and look at that.  I have a feeling the "final" version is going to be CF fenders with the fairing and, possibly, yellow side panels.  (I really like the look of body colored SPs on the "bike of the month.")
I do have the new fairing coming this week, when I switch it out with the old one I'll take some pics without it, just for you.  (oh, and me)  Grin
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« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2009, 01:32:38 PM »

It look's the "DOG'S", especially the spoke wheels  waytogo

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