Ducati Vyper - Ducati is considering a new 1400cc power cruiser

Started by bluemoco, March 24, 2009, 07:56:34 AM

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bluemoco

Ducati already has a prototype for a new 1400cc Vyper, apparently.  Here's a photoshop:



The Visordown News article quotes: 

"DUCATI ARE to launch a 1400cc muscle-bound street bruiser to challenge Harley-Davidson - that's the word on the street from Italy this morning."

"It's reported the Vyper will feature a stroked version of the company's Testastretta engine, housed in Ducati's signature steel trellis frame. A 240-section rear tyre mounted in a beefy, hollow-section swingarm, is believed to also be featured on the new machine."
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bluemoco

 ;D

Not sure if it's Ducati's early April Fool's joke, but there are other sources talking about the same thing:

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/4/88/6/Motorcycle-Blog-Post/Ducati-Vyper-to-Rival-VMax-and-V-Rod-.aspx

http://motorcycles.about.com/b/2009/03/23/vyper-is-ducati-building-a-harley-v-rod-killer.htm

The picture is most likely a Photochop, but the I'd be surprised if this Vyper was entirely a hoax.
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the_Journeyman

Could be BS...  However, Triumph did introduce the 1600cc Thunderbird ~

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Quote from: r_ciao on January 28, 2011, 10:30:29 AM
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redxblack

they make something bigger than the RIII?

If I wanted to compensate for a (ahem) shortcoming, I'd get a big truck - not a big bike!

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BS on this one. Definitely Photoshop. 

A couple of reasons why it can't be real as well from a manufacturing point:

1) 4V engine from what I understand can't be bored/stroked that far
2) The oil sump would need changed -- too costly and would need new smog cert probably
3) 240 series rear tire won't fit on any Ducati swingarm -- too costly to make for such a small production run
4) Differing rake / offset would create clearance issues with the proposed gas tank shown

Is there a demand for large displacement Ducati powered cruisers to challenge V-Max's on the street.  Yes.  I've had enough inquiries to that question.  But not enough for someone ala Ducati to warrant the engineering and development costs to make a production iteration worthwhile.

I'd think it would be fantastic if they did build a prototype and unveiled it at a show though (and I know some of the Ducati folks themselves would like to do a fun project like this given past conversations) -- it would make all my customers over the years happy as well as myself that all the fun we are having on our DesmoDevil's has been noticed...


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Quote from: r_ciao on January 28, 2011, 10:30:29 AM
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causeofkaos

coming off a big bruiser motorcycle ( suzuki blvd M109r 1800 ) i really like it i would hit that in a heart beat.
pictures from this site are wicked although its way photochop
http://motori.it.msn.com/moto_e_scooter/scoop_moto/article.aspx?cp-documentid=14960206
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Quote from: causeofkaos on March 24, 2009, 02:10:37 PM
coming off a big bruiser motorcycle ( suzuki blvd M109r 1800 ) i really like it i would hit that in a heart beat.
pictures from this site are wicked although its way photochop
http://motori.it.msn.com/moto_e_scooter/scoop_moto/article.aspx?cp-documentid=14960206

Ummm...Hello! The same link is posted two posts up. It was ugly in that one and it hasn't changed just because you derbyed it.  [bang]
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Duck-Stew

GET REAL!  The stroke on the DS1000 is the maximum that the current 2V engine can handle @ 71.5mm.  There's NO way to get a 1400cc Duc 2V engine with the current cases.  Period.

It would require a completely scratch built engine and I just don't see them doing anything that large of scale just to build a cruiser.  [roll]


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