Parts selling question.

Started by TAftonomos, March 25, 2009, 08:09:15 PM

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TAftonomos

So about 6 months ago, when I'm parting out my 999 bike, a guy in Canada buys the frame from me.  Wants me to ship it to a USPS office in USA, so he won't have to pay duties on it.  Whatever, I'll ship it wherever he wants as long as I've gotten paid.  What he does with it or where he lives isn't my concern.

Anyway, I overnight him the title, then get the frame boxed up and sent out.  Of course, the USPS office rejects the delivery, and it comes back to me.


This was DECEMBER 08.

I've emailed him about a dozen times, no response.  I would think someone would want a 1200 frame they paid for, but alas he is non-responsive.

How long do I have to keep this thing before I go ahead and turn it into a track whore bike?  Title is signed over and gone, and I don't want to do anything illegal with it either.  But I'm not sure how long I need to "hold" it before I do whatever.

Thoughts?

ducpainter

Quote from: TAftonomos on March 25, 2009, 08:09:15 PM
So about 6 months ago, when I'm parting out my 999 bike, a guy in Canada buys the frame from me.  Wants me to ship it to a USPS office in USA, so he won't have to pay duties on it.  Whatever, I'll ship it wherever he wants as long as I've gotten paid.  What he does with it or where he lives isn't my concern.

Anyway, I overnight him the title, then get the frame boxed up and sent out.  Of course, the USPS office rejects the delivery, and it comes back to me.


This was DECEMBER 08.

I've emailed him about a dozen times, no response.  I would think someone would want a 1200 frame they paid for, but alas he is non-responsive.

How long do I have to keep this thing before I go ahead and turn it into a track whore bike?  Title is signed over and gone, and I don't want to do anything illegal with it either.  But I'm not sure how long I need to "hold" it before I do whatever.

Thoughts?
My first thought is the title alone was worth the $1200.

Do the 'math'.
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swampduc

12/08? I'd give it a couple of months more, making a total of 6. No good logical reason, just feels right  ;D
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herm

put the money in a savings account (or whatever) for 6 months, in case he gets in touch.
and do whatever you want with the frame.
If you drive the nicest car in the neighborhood, work in a cash business, and don't pay taxes, you're either a preacher or a drug dealer...

hbliam

Quote from: ducpainter on March 25, 2009, 08:11:10 PM
My first thought is the title alone was worth the $1200.

Do the 'math'.

Yep.

herm

Quote from: ducpainter on March 25, 2009, 08:11:10 PM
My first thought is the title alone was worth the $1200.

Do the 'math'.

ok, i am even slower than usual this morning. would someone do the "math" for me?
If you drive the nicest car in the neighborhood, work in a cash business, and don't pay taxes, you're either a preacher or a drug dealer...

NAKID

He didn't care about the frame, he just wanted a clean title...
2005 S2R800
2006 S2R1000
2015 Monster 821

ducpainter

Quote from: herm on March 26, 2009, 05:13:02 AM
ok, i am even slower than usual this morning. would someone do the "math" for me?
If you have a 'warm' 999...

and can cool it off for a $1200 piece of paper...

why bother with the actual part?

and Chris beat me to it
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."



swampduc

Quote from: ducpainter on March 26, 2009, 05:23:13 AM
If you have a 'warm' 999...

and can cool it off for a $1200 piece of paper...

why bother with the actual part?

and Chris beat me to it
Aaah, I get it. (Need a lightbulb smiley  ;D)
Shit, do whatever you want with the frame then.
Respeta mi autoridad!

corey

When all the land lays in ruin... And burnination has forsaken the countryside... Only one guy will remain... My money's on...

DirtyDuc

I think I'm the slow one today.  Can someone explain how that works? 

How do you reconcile that the VIN on the frame of the 'warm' bike doesn't match the VIN on the title? 

This is why I ask, if I have a perfectly good (rebuilt) monster with a salvage title.  And, I buy a totaled monster with a broken frame from craigslist BUT with a clear title.   How can I use that clear title on the good frame?


DLSGAP

more than likely he's had a fake vin plate made or the vin matching the title etched into the frame. either would probably work... What he probably did was report that he bought the bike he has now (with your vin) for $1200 so he could register it on the cheap and have the appearance of being legal... his bike is actually probably stolen... just a guess as to why he wont get back to you. but as suggested.. I'd keep any documentation you have on it... sit on the money if you can, and hold tight for a little while just incase everything hits the fan. OR... maybe one of our beady eyed floppy headed brothers from the frozen tundra can offer insight to the registration process up there.
Damien
'07 Kawi ZX-10R Candy Plasma Blue
Draggin Knees since 1988


DLSGAP

hey wait... do you still have the radial brembos from up front and the front m/c?
Damien
'07 Kawi ZX-10R Candy Plasma Blue
Draggin Knees since 1988


hbliam

Quote from: DirtyDuc on March 26, 2009, 11:47:43 AM
I think I'm the slow one today.  Can someone explain how that works? 

How do you reconcile that the VIN on the frame of the 'warm' bike doesn't match the VIN on the title? 

This is why I ask, if I have a perfectly good (rebuilt) monster with a salvage title.  And, I buy a totaled monster with a broken frame from craigslist BUT with a clear title.   How can I use that clear title on the good frame?



The VIN is on the head tube. The head tube goes bye bye and is replaced by a new one. New, fake VIN is stamped on the headtube. Bike is sold for 8-10K with a cost to the thief of $2,000 or so. The $1,200 was probably stolen from someone as well.

Africaboy

Hey Taf
There are quiet a lot of Canadians on this board. If the dude is in or near Toronto, I would try and help you find the guy. If he is in Quebec, he's on his own. Hahahaha
Lojack