New SS conceptualizing - what should ducati build poll winner

[Raux]

OK we took a poll and the aircooled Supersports based on the 696/1100 were the most popular

now let's decide on some specs.

we already know two motors are available. with minor tweeks and the sort, lets decide what we would want in the new SS

give a brief breakdown of target specs, design elements and layout for a 696 and 1100 based SS (can add cc's)

i'll take the best suggestions and turn them into a poll to finalize.

[junior varsity]

I want it monoposto. I'd like the pipes to be "low mount" but with the dramatic angle, so they point upwards quite a bit.

I'd like the half-faired option too, I really liked the look of those. And dry-clutch, since this is sport oriented.

[Porsche Monkey]

A true Monoposto option would be cool.  High mount or undertail exhaust.  Dry clutch is a must for the bigger one.  A fully adjustable, high quality suspension.

[ArguZ]

Look and feel like the 848.
USB data schnickschnack for everyone to get some race feel.
Total competition for the R6, 600 Ninja and Daytona.
Not more than 8000 Euro. (or AMERO , which should be out by then
Race trim kit for another 2000
Designed like the upcoming 600 moto GP bike.
Yes, I am talking about a younsters dream bike,

Oh and while they are on the engine, drop the LEGO stuff and build a scrambler 

[junior varsity]

If it looks and feels like an 848, then its not an SS. Its a SBK. Different beasts.

[Alexandre]

undertail or dual low mount exhaust
SSS
half-fairing option
mono option
dry clutch (at least on bigger motor)
fully adjustable suspension (at least on S model)
very light
affordable

[yotogi]

price (needs to compete with 500-600cc japanese bikes)
light light light
new track rider friendly (not sure what this means exactly)
undertail exhaust (lowside damage avoidance)
easily removable lower fairing (newbie track training aid)
dry clutch (at least on 1100, but this may invalidate new rider friendliness)
fully adjustable suspension

[junior varsity]

I'd like to see an S or an S+ or, hell, an "R" that has your fully adjustable "Ohlins-esque" suspension, and factory slipper clutch. I'd also like to see Ducati start to impliment adjustable rearsets on all of their models. We aren't all the same size, I should have to buy aftermarket parts to get comfortable. Especially for my track oriented bike.


See Also: Track-Kits. a basic kit that you pop off the bolts on the existing stuff, unplug the wires, and replace the headlight/turnsignal mirrors/windscreen area with a new piece without all that stuff. A nice integrated system to make getting ready to go play on the track a nice situation.

BUT make this an aftermarket deal - the bike is set up for the street, and can be tracked with some tape on the headlights, etc, but with this kit, you drop weight, don't risk damaging your street plastics, etc. Oil catch belly pan included, etc.

[junior varsity]

I like the way that looks. Would still need an oil catch for track use though, no?

I guess there's no way for lateral mounting of the damper is there? Looks like at full-right, it'll nearly touch the front fairing.

[Raux]

ok let's get some numbers

copy and paste this and fill in the numbers for yourself for the small and large cc bikes

Weight:
HP:
Torque:
Price:
Engine Features:
Extras (monoposto, rearsets, etc):

[Porsche Monkey]

Weight:  Sub 350 pounds
HP: 100 - 110
Torque:75
Price:$10,000, $11,000 for S model
Engine Features:longer maintenance interval to compete with the big 4
Extras (monoposto, rearsets, etc):Mono, Rearsets, highmount or undertail exhaust, SSS

[superjohn]

Weight:  Sub 350 pounds
HP: 100 - 110
Torque:75
Price:$10,000, $11,000 for S model
Engine Features:longer maintenance interval to compete with the big 4
Extras (monoposto, rearsets, etc):Mono, Rearsets, highmount or undertail exhaust, SSS

Couldn't have said it better +1

[Statler]

must be able to see motor or I'm out.

If it's a half fairing/full fairing option the half cannot look like the lower panel is just missing....should be different upper as well.

[PizzaMonster]

Weight:                 less than 400 lbs
HP:                       100 -110 hp
Torque:                 80 ft.lb.
Price:                    within $1K of an 1100 Monster
Engine Features:    696 and 1100 versions.....but I'd also settle for the old 1000DS engine,  Longer maintenance intervals
Extras (luggage, power outlets, etc): removeable luggage, Low seat height (31 inches) , adjustable (higher) handlebars, HID headlight, decent 
                                                      wind protection, full and half-fairing options
       

And don't mess with success.  No angular Japanese styling.  No stupid looking headlights or Fischer-Price bikes allowed!!!   Just use the classic SS bikes of the past as the design inspiration

[il d00d]

Talking about a 696-based SS (or maybe an air cooled 848?)

Weight: <400 wet
HP: 90-ish
Torque: 60ish
Price: 10K
Engine Features:
Extras (monoposto, rearsets, etc): SSS, adjustable rearsets, and higher handlebars than the sbks.  Undertail or shorty exhaust - a Ducati factory version of a quat-D would be nice.  Low mounts defeat the purpose of making a track-capable bike IMO.  Modern instrumentation - gear indicator, gas gauge, lap timer.  Maybe an optional telemetry module.

As long as I am dreaming, I would love to see adjustable handlebars and an adjustable windscreen.  Wireless HUD, and biometric security system 

Also, I assume y'all are talking about an 1100SS when you say 80 ft-lbs?  That seems like a bit of a stretch to me?

Reading this, it occurs to me that I just need to buy an 848 and some helibars and rearsets.  Nevermind...