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« on: April 10, 2009, 09:27:33 AM »

to do this properly parts to purchase include ?
cover, ss springs, pressure plate, and .........
i have the tools and am savy enough to do it, ive looked at pictures and posts on this site still want to ask.
Thank you
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« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2009, 09:29:29 AM »

see tutorials for how to change a cluthc plate. you might end up with a backyard full of zombies if you do it wrong.

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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2009, 09:43:37 AM »

Sounds like you have it covered. It's really easy. The cover is even optional, although I think they look better with a slick cover...and good ones provide crash protection.

The installation only takes an allen wrench to remove the spring retaining screws. pull off the old plate, install new one. The rod may or may not come out with the plate. If it does just put it back in gently. It just presses in and out of the pressure plate bearing, The new pressure plate should have a new bearing...they come with them.

Make sure you line up the mark on the new pressure plate with the post in the hub which is slotted. The pressure plate mark will probably be pretty low key...so just look for something different (like a dimple) near one of the holes.

Don't overtighten the spring screws. You'll feel when they bottom out...just make them snug, as they break easy. There is a torque spec. but most don't use it. The spring tension keeps the bolts from backing out if they're snug.

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« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2009, 09:57:18 AM »

to do this properly parts to purchase include ?
cover, ss springs, pressure plate, and .........
i have the tools and am savy enough to do it, ive looked at pictures and posts on this site still want to ask.
Thank you

The only must on that list is the plate if you want to live dangerously.

Like He Man said, take a trip over to the tutorials section.  I did one (a quick and dirty) and He did also (longer w/ nice photos)  that should cover any questions.
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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2009, 10:08:18 AM »

to do this properly parts to purchase include ?
cover, ss springs, pressure plate, and .........
i have the tools and am savy enough to do it, ive looked at pictures and posts on this site still want to ask.
Thank you

left out Spring Caps
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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2009, 11:25:21 AM »

i guess my wording was off  Tongue

the only part i left out was spring caps.  Roll Eyes

I've read the forementioned tutorials  waytogo

wish i had another sentence for another emoticon  Grin
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M1100 " Loki " = Viking God of mischief ( Goddess in this case )
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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2009, 11:40:15 AM »

i guess my wording was off  Tongue

the only part i left out was spring caps.  Roll Eyes

I've read the forementioned tutorials  waytogo

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why  Huh?

its a pretty easy job  Smiley

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let us know how it goes  chug

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« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2009, 11:42:14 AM »

Before you spend a lot of money, lets go over some basics:

Your clutch is made up of several parts, here is the list:

Clutch Cover and Bolts (M6, various lengths)
Clutch Pressure Plate
Clutch Springs, Bolts (M5) and Caps
Clutch Pressure Plate Bearing
Clutch Pushrod Pin
Clutch Hub
Clutch Basket
Clutch Plate 'pack'

Basic "blinging" of the clutch involves replacing:
Clutch Cover or Remove (Free - $250)
Clutch Plate (140 to $250)
Stainless or Ti Clutch Spring Bolts (Cheap)
Clutch Spring Caps (Cheap, Rizoma includes them with their plate)
Stainless Clutch Springs (~$40)

Effort Reduction is easily accomplished two ways, and can be combined:
Remove Two Opposite Springs (Free)
Place small aluminum washers between spring caps and hub to springs are less compressed. ($2)

With Some Pressure Plates you can Upgrade your spring caps into some sort of combined "hub" or "spider". See Motowheels or TPO Parts for Examples. This is not available on all pressure plate designs.

To lighten up the clutch in general, making the bike quicker revving and easier to downshift one can:
Replace Clutch Basket with Aluminum and Clutch Pack with Aluminum (Must be done together) (Up to $350 for basket, $175 for plates)
Replace Clutch Hub with Aluminum (Optional, additional weight savings) ($275 to $330)

Extra available bling:
STM Pushrod Pin with captured ball bearing. Looks a lot better than the stock, has the nifty logo, can't feel a difference in performance. ($40)

Tools needed for basic bling update: 5mm Hex Head, 4mm Hex Head (for the M6 and M5 bolts)
To replace the clutch hub and basket: Clutch holding tool, 32mm Socket, 12mm socket (for the M8 hex head bolts)

For the price of getting nuts and replacing basket, hub, pack, plate, cover, and miscellaneous doo-dads, one could enjoy the thrills of a slipper clutch - They can be had for around $800. (To somewhere near $2000 for super fancy models)

Places to investigate:

www.MotoWheels.com
www.PJsParts.com
www.DesmoTimes.com
www.TPOparts.com
www.motostrano.com

I've had great success with all of these vendors and recommend them without hesitation. Enjoy!
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« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2009, 11:56:58 AM »

Dr D,
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ato,
that was a wealth of info thank you very much
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"PICS OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN"
"F**K U IT HAPPENED"

Suzuki Blvd M109R " Sliver " = assassinated by cager
PW 696 " Pearl " = traded in
M1100 " Loki " = Viking God of mischief ( Goddess in this case )
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving in a pretty pristine body, but rather to come in sliding sideways all used up screaming F*CK YEAH WHAT A RDIE!!
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« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2009, 08:11:07 PM »

Place small aluminum washers between spring caps and hub to springs are less compressed. ($2)

Do you mean put washers between the spring caps and hub so that the springs are MORE compressed? as in shorter in length because it will be preloaded more?

I want to try this but I'm a bit confused.
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« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2009, 09:07:41 PM »

No, it will keep the caps slightly further out - thus the springs would be less loaded all the time, making the pull slightly less.
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