S2R 800 or 1K?

Started by bipolarbear, April 14, 2009, 09:11:04 AM

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MsTek

You are all making me feel bad about my S2R now. (800)   :-[
"Do something each day that scares you..."

silentbob

Quote from: MsTek on April 22, 2009, 09:43:35 AM
You are all making me feel bad about my S2R now. (800)   :-[

The 800 is a great bike.  So is the 620.  But the 1000 is a better performing bike.  My 1098 is a great bike.  The 1198 is even better.  I am still happy with mine.

Grampa

I loved my s2r800


right up until I hucked it over a cliff

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stopintime

Quote from: bipolarbear on April 22, 2009, 08:32:34 AM
As for weight and height I'm 160 lbs and 6ft tall. 

I have a couple of bikes I have been e-mailing about one is a stock s2r 1000 and I've managed to talk them down to $6600 from $7500.  Another is an s2r 800 dark asking price of $5500, and the last is an s2r 800 with exhaust and some other mods and I'm waiting to hear back on a price for that one.  Tough choice right now.

Tough choice?  ;D Not really - you'll be very impressed and happy either way [moto] Come on - you're getting a Monster [thumbsup] ;) Party time!
252,000 km/seventeen years - loving it

bipolarbear

Oh theres no doubt about it I'm going to be happy with whatever I buy!  I've had the fattest grin on my face for the last week as things have finally starting coming together  ;D

dang

I have had my S2R800 for two years now. Love it. Debated the same as you (and earlier considered the GT1000 and Multi). I am 6'2" 200lbs. Plenty of power and brakes on the S2R800 for the street the way I ride. I went with the 800 because for me it was a better value. It had a wet clutch and this was my first street bike (road dirt a while back) so I felt more confident on it. The suspension is my only beef, but that is something I think every rider must get adjusted anyway. The suspension can be improved greatly and set up for YOU by changing the springs. At 200lbs I was likely looking at new springs no matter what bike. That said, I confess I haven't done it yet but hope to this year - I have adjusted the rear.

You will love either. Find the best deal and don't look back.

Cheers,

Dan
2007 S2R 800 and a smile every time I ride...

booger

Quote from: MsTek on April 22, 2009, 09:43:35 AM
You are all making me feel bad about my S2R now. (800)   :-[

Haha don't feel bad, I think you've got a nice bike in a rare color combo. The S2R800s are rock-solid and easy to live with, with enough excitement for the average non-racing lawbreaking citizen hooligan.  
It's not WHAT you ride, it's THAT you ride. At the end of the day it's still a Ducati, made in Italy, and even a 620 sounds like Hell unleashed with cored cans.
Everybody got a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

2001 M900Sie - sold
2006 S2R1000 - sold
2008 HM1100S - sold
2004 998 FE - $old
2007 S4RT
2007 Vespa LX50 aka "Slowey"
2008 BMW R1200 GSA

silentbob

Quote from: bergdoerfer on April 22, 2009, 01:50:47 PM
Haha don't feel bad, I think you've got a nice bike in a rare color combo. The S2R800s are rock-solid and easy to live with, with enough excitement for the average non-racing lawbreaking citizen hooligan.   
It's not WHAT you ride, it's THAT you ride. At the end of the day it's still a Ducati, made in Italy, and even a 620 sounds like Hell unleashed with cored cans.

One of my favorite bikes is the 620 Multistrada.  A bike considered to be among the ugliest things to leave the Ducati factory outside of the sewer pipe and powered by what most consider to be a girl's bike engine.

Loyalizer

Quote from: silentbob on April 22, 2009, 08:31:20 AM
If you have been monitoring this board for a while then you should realize that the majority here can appreciate and use better suspension and brakes which the 1000 has over the 800.

[coffee] So here is my question, is the 800 more nibble yes or no? Do insurance companies charge less for bikes under 1000 for coverage? if the price difference in obtaining the bike is more than $1000 would the saving be better put in upgrading to higher grade suspension and brakes or whatever components one may fancy? Is the dry clutch apt to be more or less of a maintenance issue over the wet clutch? 

[thumbsup] I guess Im thinking more bigger picture, as a whole, more bang for buck. Plus I have read many a time on this board that the 1000 or the S4R's are sometimes too cumbersome a bike for everyday traffic. (Im just sayin' that's what I been reading here) But, again, what do I know, Im on a 620. I just wanted something I could pick up if it fell.

BTW - You and I are roughly the same  body type give or take a few or more pounds (182 cm + 75 kg). Anyway, I was reading the manuel from my M620. It recommends not exceeding over 390 kg for total weight, bike (168 kg) included. So basically if you count me plus the bike, the heaviest passenger I can take on is 322.5 lbs. (146.6 kg). Just a little random trivia... ;)


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silentbob

Quote from: Loyalizer on April 22, 2009, 03:35:29 PM
[coffee] So here is my question, is the 800 more nibble yes or no? Do insurance companies charge less for bikes under 1000 for coverage? if the price difference in obtaining the bike is more than $1000 would the saving be better put in upgrading to higher grade suspension and brakes or whatever components one may fancy? Is the dry clutch apt to be more or less of a maintenance issue over the wet clutch? 

[thumbsup] I guess Im thinking more bigger picture, as a whole, more bang for buck. Plus I have read many a time on this board that the 1000 or the S4R's are sometimes too cumbersome a bike for everyday traffic. (Im just sayin' that's what I been reading here) But, again, what do I know, Im on a 620. I just wanted something I could pick up if it fell.

BTW - You and I are roughly the same  body type give or take a few or more pounds (182 cm + 75 kg). Anyway, I was reading the manuel from my M620. It recommends not exceeding over 390 kg for total weight, bike (168 kg) included. So basically if you count me plus the bike, the heaviest passenger I can take on is 322.5 lbs. (146.6 kg). Just a little random trivia... ;)


I'm a work in progress, learning new things everyday...

The chassis geometry and ergos are the same between the two bikes.  The 800 is a little lighter but the 1000 has better suspension.  Some might feel that the 800 is a little more flickable, but no more than changing to a light flywheel on the 1000 would feel.  As to which one will hustle around corners better, the 1000 with it's better suspension has the advantage.  Either bike will have to be sprung appropriately for the rider.

Either bike would require the same amount of effort to pick up.

The wet clutch definitely has the advantage when it comes to lever pull, smoothness, and longevity.  The dry clutch is easier to service, has less inertia, and makes cool sounds.

An S4R desmoquattro version can be a bear in traffic, especially with stock gearing.  The S4Rs and S4Rt testatretta versions are more docile at lower rpms.

I try to never take a passenger that is heavier than me for a couple of reasons.  One, their inputs can have more of an impact on the direction of the bike than your own.  Two, in the words of David Bowie, they can put your spine out of place.

herm

Quote from: Loyalizer on April 22, 2009, 03:35:29 PM
[coffee] So here is my question, is the 800 more nibble yes or no? Do insurance companies charge less for bikes under 1000 for coverage? if the price difference in obtaining the bike is more than $1000 would the saving be better put in upgrading to higher grade suspension and brakes or whatever components one may fancy? Is the dry clutch apt to be more or less of a maintenance issue over the wet clutch?  the s2r1000 is actually 992, so it does not hit the 1000 insurance catagory

[thumbsup] I guess Im thinking more bigger picture, as a whole, more bang for buck. Plus I have read many a time on this board that the 1000 or the S4R's are sometimes too cumbersome a bike for everyday traffic. (Im just sayin' that's what I been reading here) But, again, what do I know, Im on a 620. I just wanted something I could pick up if it fell.  why do you keep confusing your point of view by throwing in s4r comparisons?

BTW - You and I are roughly the same  body type give or take a few or more pounds (182 cm + 75 kg). Anyway, I was reading the manuel from my M620. It recommends not exceeding over 390 kg for total weight, bike (168 kg) included. So basically if you count me plus the bike, the heaviest passenger I can take on is 322.5 lbs. (146.6 kg). Just a little random trivia... ;)


I'm a work in progress, learning new things everyday...

silentbob has covered the rest....
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MsTek

Well... when I get a new bike... maybe I will get that streetfighter.. I kinda like it but that beak-thing in the front must come off.

But it's probably too tall for me anyway (I have short legs.)
"Do something each day that scares you..."

bipolarbear

Well found my Ducati!  2007 S2R 1000 with 1,600 miles, totally stock.  Picking it up next Wednesday and riding it home  [moto]  Thanks for all the opinions and when it really came down to it the price was way too good to pass up this bike. 

He Man

first mos fat duc. because that bike runs like crap stock ( i have one) throw that $80 bad boy on and your in buisness

silentbob

Quote from: MsTek on April 22, 2009, 07:17:03 PM
Well... when I get a new bike... maybe I will get that streetfighter.. I kinda like it but that beak-thing in the front must come off.

But it's probably too tall for me anyway (I have short legs.)

I have a pair of IZ's old motorcycle shoes you can have.  He is getting shorter with old age and needed taller ones.