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He Man

April 14, 2009, 04:45:32 PM Last Edit: April 14, 2009, 05:25:38 PM by He Man
Trying to break my chain to powder my swingarm and reuse it... not sure what type of chain  I have, how i should remove it, and how easy it is to get parts to reconnect it. To my untrained eye, it looks like a rivet style chain, and i can just grind of the rivets seen in the pic and punch them out to free the chain. Can i just get new rivets and install them and be done?

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ducpainter

#1
April 14, 2009, 04:49:24 PM
Quote from: He Man on April 14, 2009, 04:45:32 PM
Trying to break my chain to powder my swingarm and reuse it... not sure what type of chain  I have, how i should remove it, and how easy it is to get parts to reconnect it. To my untrained eye, it looks like a rivet style chain, and i can just grind of the rivets seen in the pic and punch them out to free the chain. Can i just get new rivets and install them and be done?


If you look closely you'll see which link is the master. Grind the heads off those two pins and just drive that link out with a punch. A little at a time on each pin.

You can buy a new rivet type master.
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Speeddog

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April 14, 2009, 05:26:37 PM
Make sure and get the same brand and model of master link.

There's small differences on the size of the pins, they're not necessarily a 'one fits all'.
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DucHead

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April 14, 2009, 05:39:08 PM
Quote from: Speeddog on April 14, 2009, 05:26:37 PM
Make sure and get the same brand and model of master link.

There's small differences on the size of the pins, they're not necessarily a 'one fits all'.

That looks like the OEM DID 525 x-ring chain (I can see "DID" stamped on one of the links).  Your owner's manual should list the exact chain model/specs.  I get chains from Chris at Ca-Cycleworks.

IMO, it's worth the money to get a chain breaking tool.  They can be used to drive out the pins of an old masterlink (or regular links if shortening a new chain), and setting a new rivet masterlink.  I have the Motiopro one, and it was about $100.
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ducpainter

#4
April 14, 2009, 06:02:08 PM
I don't disagree with the professor...

a chain tool is worth it if you can afford one.

I have chain tools... a grinder...a pair of vise grips with a groove cut in them to press the side plate on... a set of calipers to measure the width...

and a hammer and dolly to peen the pins on the master link...

I'm cheap. :P
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corndog67

#5
April 14, 2009, 06:22:37 PM
I'm with Painter.  I do it the cheap way, too.  Normally, I just buy a clip type link, when I order a new chain, I always order a spare clip type master link of the same type of chain, so I always have a spare.  You'd think that after a load of motorcycles over the years, I'd have about 30 spare master links, but it seems someone always needs one, at least with the dirt bike crowd. 

And a long time ago, in a pinch when I lost the clip, I zapped the tops of the pins with a mig welder.   I know, I know, that's pretty hack, but it worked.

gage

#7
April 14, 2009, 07:55:49 PM
This one is $20 bucks... I bought it and it worked flawlessly on a friends bike. It is a total ripoff of the DID chain tool but is built very solidly. I got some other tools from this place also and all were delivered fast and seem to be of relatively good qaulity. The chain tool is nice though.

http://www.mikesxs.net/products-49.html#products

There is also a thread with a bunch of people who bought this and have been pleased

Langanobob

#8
April 14, 2009, 08:29:00 PM
QuoteThere is also a thread with a bunch of people who bought this and have been pleased

And as I recall there were also a bunch of people with some dissenting opinions  :)

But, to each his own...

DucHead

#9
April 15, 2009, 04:03:50 AM
DP how do you use a hammer to peen the rivets with the chain on the bike?

The vise grips with a groove is a great idea!  I guess I bought the Motionpro tool 'cause I never thought of modding a $10 set of vise grips.  :-\
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ducpainter

#10
April 15, 2009, 04:28:38 AM
Quote from: pompetta on April 15, 2009, 04:03:50 AM
DP how do you use a hammer to peen the rivets with the chain on the bike?

The vise grips with a groove is a great idea!  I guess I bought the Motionpro tool 'cause I never thought of modding a $10 set of vise grips.  :-\
That's what the dolly is for.

I just put the link in the run where I can get an auto body dolly behind it to support the other end of the pins and start peening. You don't hit very hard and aim the blows to the edges of the rivets.

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 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
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    is even more amazing than yours."
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    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
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DucHead

#11
April 15, 2009, 04:31:06 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on April 15, 2009, 04:28:38 AM
That's what the dolly is for.

I just put the link in the run where I can get an auto body dolly behind it to support the other end of the pins and start peening. You don't hit very hard and aim the blows to the edges of the rivets.

Did the auto body dolly cost more than $100?   [cheeky]
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ducpainter

#12
April 15, 2009, 04:36:05 AM
Quote from: pompetta on April 15, 2009, 04:31:06 AM
Did the auto body dolly cost more than $100?   [cheeky]
;D

It was left over from when I did cars.

I think it was $10...it's just a shaped block of steel.
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    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
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DucHead

#13
April 15, 2009, 04:38:00 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on April 15, 2009, 04:36:05 AM
;D

It was left over from when I did cars.

I think it was $10...it's just a shaped block of steel.

Dammit!!  [laugh]   [beer]
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gage

#14
April 15, 2009, 09:18:26 AM
Quote from: Langanobob on April 14, 2009, 08:29:00 PM
And as I recall there were also a bunch of people with some dissenting opinions  :)

But, to each his own...

Here is the thread. The only dissenting opinions were from those who had no experience with the tool. They thought it was ripping off Motion Pro and/or DID - which it clearly does - I have no problem with that.

There was also someone who broke the pin - RK, Motion Pro and DID all sell replacement pins and theirs are more than $6.

So lets say you buy the tool and a replcement pin:
Tool: $20
Pin: $6

and then you break the pin 12 times and have to buy a new one: $72

After 14 pins it's still cheaper than the motion pro one.  ;)

http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=18172.15
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